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Neural Networking for Dummies

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 15:03

So I want to write neural network that would process N-symbol words.

Should I provide 26 symbol neurons for each letter position, so that they give 1.0 for their matching letter? Should I duplicate position for each recognized words? I.e. vocabulary of 1000 N-sized words would require 1000*N*26.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 15:05

Is it possible to run all words in parallel on GPU?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 15:10

Lastly, is it possible to implement Lisp SEXPs using neural network?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 15:13

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Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 16:40

Here's the real question: why do you want to write neural network x.  Depending on the answer, there's a good chance you might be giving yourself more work than you need.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 16:55

>>5
So that NPCs could associate in-game processes with spoken words.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 17:13

>>3
No, they are too fuzzy.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 19:59

>>1
It's a lot more complicated than that. A lot. It's very unlikely you'll be able to teach language to a brain whose only external stimuli are letters. For example, what is "a letter"? Your brain immediately associates it with "visual symbol" or "smallest fraction of a word". But that's only because of the phrase I wrote right before I asked you that. Had I not mentioned that meaning of the word "letter", you might have thought of an mail envelope and such.

To handle and distinguish all of those, such a brain would need to actually understand and, to a certain extent, perceive the various concepts you present to it. Anything it can't perceive or even imagine would be abstract, and abstract things are difficult to learn.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 8:20

>>7
consider fuzzy sexps, that can adapt to underlaying model.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 8:22

>>8
whose only external stimuli are letters.
Not just letter, but also their position in time.

Blind people somehow manage to learn language, despite their only stimuli being letters.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 8:25

>Blind people somehow manage to learn language, despite their only stimuli being letters.

lolwhat

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 8:43

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 8:59

how is it relevant to 'their only stimuli being letters'
blind people learn their first language just like you learned it - aurally from their parents when they cannot yet read and don't know what letter it. deafblind from birth.. afaik they are taught with special gestures (tactile) instead of sound. anyway the concept of letter is a quite abstract concept and i seriously doubt it could be understood without knowing a language beforehand (you may not realize it but our language it's our means to think abstractly and letter is an abstraction, those who don't learn a human language to age of ~6y.o. or so will be half-sapient forever, see feral children)

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 9:05

>>13
The concept of a formant or any other sound is a quite abstract concept and i seriously doubt it could be understood without knowing a language beforehand (you may not realize it but our language it's our means to think abstractly and sound is an abstraction, those who don't learn a human language to age of ~6y.o. or so will be half-sapient forever, see feral children)

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 9:06

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 9:10

>>13
afaik they are taught with special gestures (tactile) instead of sound.
consider letters being these "special gestures"

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 9:19

>>16
no they are not. they are analogues of words, not of letters. like have you ever seen how a baby learn alphabet before he can say 'mama'

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 9:26

>>17
have you ever seen how a baby learn alphabet before he can say 'mama'
Baby produces a wide range of syllables.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 9:44

>>18

syllables, short words... concept of letters isn't basic for human mind in any way, just think that some nations don't even have an alphabet and use some kind of hieroglyphs instead

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 9:54

>>19
letters are short words... concept of sound isn't basic for human mind in any way, just think that some nations don't even have an sounds and use some kind of letters instead

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 4:26

Hard AI is anti-God bullshit.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 4:31

>>21
what if god creates a soul for every hard ai human make

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 4:33

>>21
Great, because I fucking hate god. If hard AI is what it would take to eradicate him/her/it, then I'd be working on it right now.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 4:34

>23
Burn in hell you ugly nigger.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 5:24

hmm.. if we're all expecting this hard ai to be all god-like (singularity / etc..), then perhaps god is an ai? ^^

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 5:32

...typical humans xD still trying to capture (and enslave) the divine.. =)

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 5:36

>>25,26
Quit writing Perl and wring English, retard-kun.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 7:05

>>27 wha? lmao i'm not the one looking for the elixir of life still..

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 7:23

>>1 try a recurrent n.n.

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