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I miss anti-porn activists and female sexists

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 1:32

Nikita just doesn't seem to enrage me anymore and the other trolls are transparent newbies.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 1:57

>>1
Female sexism doesn't exist. Only discrimination from women towards others, its gravity depending on case (and some unfriendly idiots just dismiss it all offhand), but not the academic concept of sexism.

Debating Nikita was ``exciting'' back in 2011, shit got old fast

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 2:32

>>2
By female sexism (an ambiguous term) I meant sexism towards males or men perpetrated by females or women. And by sexism I mean gender- or sex-based discrimination (are there any other definitions?).

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 3:04

>>2
>>3
Wrong on all accounts, no thanks for tryoing and failing miserably hymie.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 3:15

>>4
Boring!

Name: 3 2013-03-02 4:45

So my point is that according to my definitions, female sexism does exist. Or, if you prefer to expand all the definitions, there exist females or women who discriminate against males or men.

but not the academic concept of sexism.
According to what definition? Oh and don't come up with the large-scale disparity bullshit, you know very well that an action (e.g. male telling female she can't do science because she's a wimmin) between two individuals can also be construed as sexist without dragging in any large-scale socio-economic phenomena.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 10:11

>>6
Yes, that's precisely what it is nowadays. Quite frankly arguing about that definition is a rather empty debate. As I said, discrimination and general douchebaggery can and does exist from women towards men, but on a societal level, it just hasn't had the same impact, as women don't have presence in the power spheres that men do, and from which they can exclude the other gender.

So, those -isms, like racism, are precisely about the large-scale socio-cultural phenomenons.

Perhaps the negative term you are looking for is ``bigotry''. That one looks pretty catch-all, unless I'm misinformed.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 11:28

>>1,4
back to /b/

>>2
I guess you are completely wrong. People are mostly unaware of feminism, and more likely to think there is no difference between feminism and female sexism. Back then, some of my (teenager) friends that embraced feminism were often spewing diarrhea about women ability to asexual reproduction and slave or discard males in the near future. If gender-based discrimination and dominance is not sexism, then I do not know what is sexism at all.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 11:34

>>7
So, those -isms, like racism, are precisely about the large-scale socio-cultural phenomenons.
No, define "large-scale".

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 11:34

It's funny how /prog/ discusses about kike-related topics so much.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 11:42

It's funny how /prog/ discusses about dubs-related topics so much.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 11:59

>>11

I like your dubs.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 12:46

>>12
Do them as you please. :3

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 12:55

>>9
What are you, Nikita?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 18:59

>>7
Quite frankly arguing about that definition is a rather empty debate.
I disagree.

As I said, discrimination and general douchebaggery can and does exist from women towards men, but on a societal level, it just hasn't had the same impact, as women don't have presence in the power spheres that men do, and from which they can exclude the other gender.
So in other words, the exact same action, when committed by a man against a woman, is different than when the roles are reversed. In other words, your definition of justice and morality discriminates based on sex/gender.

So, those -isms, like racism, are precisely about the large-scale socio-cultural phenomenons.
But those would then strictly refer to large scale trends! So if a person tells another person ``that's my seat you stinking nigger'' on a bus, it's not racism because it was a one-shot small-scale event and it has no bearing on the large scale phenomenons. But then you'd disagree and say that it's racism because it follows the large scale trend. And then I'd say ``so what? that's not why it's wrong!''. But this is actually part of a bigger problem.

I seem to notice a divide within feminists people who refer to themselves as feminist: The group which recognizes the elimination of personal injustice and discrimination as the top priority, and the group that recognizes large-scale socio-economic justice as the top priority. The ultimate goal is quite identical in both cases (i.e. personal injustice and discrimination exists if and only if large-scale injustice does), but they are otherwise very different. While the first group truly wants justice for each individual and cannot stand discrimination of any form, the second group does not exclude the possibility of discriminating against some individuals if it helps ``the greater good''. I strongly reject this sort of moral compromise; you can't just randomly wrong, and discriminate against, a bunch of innocent people to advance a personal cause. Moreover, this sort of approach might prove ineffective if the people you wronged decide to treat you as an enemy and to discriminate against whatever unprivileged group you were trying to help as a form of revenge. You can't fight fire with fire, and you can't fight injustice with injustice. Therefore I see the second group as logically inconsistent and as lacking integrity.

This is why, for example, I define my ``feminism-related'' terms as follows:
sexism := discrimination based on sex or gender.
racism := discrimination based on ethnicity or apparent ethnicity.

>>8
Pretty much this.

>>10
Boring!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 20:11

trolls
Just summon a "Prove to me functional programming is useful"-guy, works every thread every time.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 20:26

>>15
But yet I don't ever see you come out with such a notion in the radically feminazised public.
Same as I don't see anyone ever call out and demonize the racism of jews, blacks, asians, and all other racists except when they're white.

You're naturally fine with both of these things, since you are neither white, nor are you not jewish, and neither is the modern radical feminazism not a page explicitly from your agendabook.

If women and tranny fags (who think they can be considered women by anyone other than freaks) can be sexist towards (white) men, and if kikes, niggers, chinks, and all else can be racist genocidal cocksucking hypocrite fucks all with zero reprecussion, then the same grace needs to be granted to men and whites. And before you disagree with that, let me quote your own jewish platitude:
You can't fight fire with fire, and you can't fight injustice with injustice.
Naturally since you are a jew, I know you don't actually have any weight behind what you say here, that's how I know it's a platitude.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 21:23

>>17
Boring.

>>16
Does that still work?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-02 21:37

>>18
I'd counter with, "prove me that it isn't. I use tools for its purpose".

Name: FFP 2013-03-03 0:01

now i only lurk.

WYPMP

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 0:09

check 'em

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 1:38

The funny thing about FFP is that it's not a female, nor a feminist, nor a programmer.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 6:59

>>22
Welcome back from last year, you've got a lot of catching up to do.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 3:49

>>23
Thank you. What the fuck did you faggots do to this board?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 4:09

>>24
LELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
>LE FUQQIN ANGERED EXPERT PROGRAMMER FACE
>LE OLD /PRO/g/ FACE
>LE E/pROGubn./

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 5:52

Being smart alone will never get you laid (sry Stephen Hawkings - you will die alone) and getting laid is the only reason to live. The only way to get laid with knowledge is to make money off it (bitches love money). When you do get money, never talk about the science behind your accomplishments with bitches. Bitches hate science, math, logic, and theory - and they do not care about science, math, logic or theory.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 5:53

>>26
Stephen Hawking had two wives and three children.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 6:06

>>27

immaculate conception!!!111 :3

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 6:17

Even Hawking got laid and will just die.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 8:32

>>15
Oh, look, I had let this thread slide.

As I said, this quite an empty debate. The definitions are in place, and so are the problems. Mainstream feminism pretty much revolves around the grander, more impacting problems, to a fault.

Other than that:

While the first group truly wants justice for each individual and cannot stand discrimination of any form, the second group does not exclude the possibility of discriminating against some individuals if it helps ``the greater good''. I strongly reject this sort of moral compromise; you can't just randomly wrong, and discriminate against, a bunch of innocent people to advance a personal cause. Moreover, this sort of approach might prove ineffective if the people you wronged decide to treat you as an enemy and to discriminate against whatever unprivileged group you were trying to help as a form of revenge. You can't fight fire with fire, and you can't fight injustice with injustice. Therefore I see the second group as logically inconsistent and as lacking integrity.

Before proceeding, I would rather if you stated what sort of concrete discrimination you are alluding.

>>24
How long have you been out there? This board was already shit, it became shittier after FrozenVoid, and after Kodak, Nikita and the native textboard shitposters dominated it, it rotted away completely.

Quite frankly, these threads are but a symptom. Anyway, at least the board got less misogynist from these sorts of discussions, unless you mind that too.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 8:55

You can't fight fire with fire

You can fight fire with fire. Sometimes it is the only way.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 11:30

>>30
As I said, this quite an empty debate. The definitions are in place, and so are the problems.
No, because the definitions, as you keep using them, confuse large-scale phenomena and small-scale events and likely lead to actual discrimination.

Mainstream feminism pretty much revolves around the grander, more impacting problems, to a fault.
Sturgeon's law.

Before proceeding, I would rather if you stated what sort of concrete discrimination you are alluding.
Okay:
http://science-professor.blogspot.ca/2010/05/left-behind.html
http://www.wolf-howl.com/conference/blogher-conference/
To a certain extent I could argue that some forms of ``affirmative action'' are also very discriminatory.

Oh and you do realize that statistics and large-scale phenomena cannot serve as an excuse to discrimination. Unless of course you wish to grant validity to all those who interpret race-intelligence correlation studies as justifying discrimination against ${group}.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 13:27

check 'em

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 14:07

>>30
Shut up, foul midget

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 14:59

>>32
FemaleScienceProfessor
sounds like Female Fourier Transformation

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 15:21

femalescienceprofessor sounds very sexist -_- how it's something special.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 15:26

>>32
Please tell me that the author of the second link has English as a third language.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 15:42

>>37
Because the other two are obviously Yiddish and Hebrew. NEXT!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 16:12

>>38
I... I don't get it. Also that spiny AA creature isn't really a “thing” here.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 18:07

>>26
getting laid is the only reason to live
lel

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 20:35

>>40
as a virgin, i tend to agree with his post.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 21:37

>>41
truly e/g/in, /v/ir/g/in /g/roski XD

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 22:47

>>40
It is for lower life forms such as antelopes, insects, and normalshit humans.

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