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It's true and you know it. I don't like religious people, but they make a good point about this. How do arbitrary rules mean anything when it turns out that they're not really made by any all-powerful beings/forces who control your ``afterlife''? Atheists trying to fit in struggle to come up with desperate stuff like using pain/suffering to decide what's ``wrong.'' Of course this begs the question that ``wrong'' is a real phenomenon. Sensation is nothing magical, just ion potential gradients in nerve cells. The more you think about it honestly, the less morality makes any sense.