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Hacker Jews

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 15:18

Best Thread of HJ:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3477488

I was hellbanned for a while without realizing on a different account. I was incredibly upset when I realized: a bunch of posts asking or answering meaningful on-topic questions had been blackholed, wasting a lot of my time, and (in my view) lowering the value of this site to everyone.

I never did figure out why I'd been hellbanned; my (polite and apologetic) emails were never answered. I'd never been impolite, trolled, or called people names, and although I was a fairly new user, I'd built up karma quickly in that short period. (Around 100 karma in 30 days; not too bad I thought.) I'd hardly ever been downvoted, and even now, looking back, I have absolutely no idea what I might have done to warrant a hellban.

Hellbanning "normal" users is just cruel. If your spambot/troll problems are so bad that you need to resort to hellbanning, it should be used rarely and sparingly. But on HN, apparently, it's not. If you browse with show dead on, I'd say 9 times out of 10 the hellbaned people you'll see should never have been hellbanned. And, take it from me, it really really sucks to realize that someone you don't even know has taken a couple seconds out of their busy day to screw with you and waste hours and hours of your time, without any possibility of recompense, or even a dialogue.

I browse with showdead on, and it seems to me that most people I see that are hellbanned got there seemingly innocently. Mostly it's that they said something mildly controversial in one of their first posts. Once they go negative karma on the account they can never get back. I'd say people like that outnumber spammers and wackos 4 or 5 to 1. Plenty of them have been posting straight into the wastebin for months or years. Seems like a broken mechanic.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 15:20

Lazare
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich

trotsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotsky


I guess Paul Graham just cosplayed Stalin's 1937 purges.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 15:36

Hellbanning is awesome. Fuck the haters.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 15:40

>>3
Actually, you're hellbanned. You can see only other hellbanned users. That is why it seems to you that mods don't care about spam and shitposting - normal users just dont see shitposts (all shitposters are long hellbanned).

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 15:49

>>4
But all my posts are VIP QUALITY.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 15:53

>>5
Moderator knows better.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 15:58

https://jcs.org/notaweblog/2012/06/13/hellbanned_from_hacker_news/
 I've been a Hacker News contributor for over 4 years, and have a karma score of 17,803 which ranks me 42nd among the thousands of users on the site (edit: my account has since been removed from the automated leaderboard - clearly indicating I've been banned or otherwise flagged). I've attended Hacker News meetups and built an auxiliary site for Hacker News users to trade things (hntrades.com, since taken down).

Yesterday I submitted a post on Hacker News out of frustration at moderators pedantically changing post titles. After quickly rising to the number two spot on the front page with 482 points and 37 comments, the post was deleted by a moderator, presumably the operator of the site, Paul Graham.

Soon after my post was removed from the front page, other users started creating posts asking where it went, one of which was also deleted by a moderator after it made its way to the front page.

I tried to respond to one of the new posts to explain that I didn't delete the original, but I received an error "You're submitting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks." whenever I would submit a comment, despite not commenting previously for at least a half hour. I waited some more and tried commenting again, then tried commenting in other posts but kept receiving the same error. The site was also responding much slower than usual.

While I am able to post comments now, I have been childishly "hellbanned" from Hacker News. My comments appear to be posted to the site, but nobody can see them except me. When others view my profile or posts where I've commented, my recent comments simply do not appear

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 16:07

Back to y combinator please.

Name: Paul Graham 2013-02-09 16:10

>>8
Enjoying your hellban?

Name: RMS 2013-02-09 16:23

>>9
Paul, this is a place for EXPERT PROGRAMMERS,
not people who've sold out.
You've disrespected your users freedoms on more than one occasion.
I can't stand for that nor ignore it.
I hope you're smart enough to atone for your sins.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 19:50

I don't get it. Why not just make a new account?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 19:51

A technique to piss off bad posters and discourage people from posting badly is pissing off bad posters and discouraging people from posting badly? Cry me a fucking river.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 19:53

>>11
Because then you lose your sweet karma and rad HN cred.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 19:54

>>11
A good hellban would do whole subnetwork and all proxies. I.e. you login under proxy and see the same.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 20:11

>>7
Update: I've since created lobste.rs based on some ideas I've had for a tech news site.
Web 2.2 borne out of hellbanned fury.

Is HN still written in mzscheme... I meant ARC?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 20:54

>>12
B-but...have you read Hacker News?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 21:36

I like how Hacker News actively avoids trying to be Reddit, yet whenever I go there the story with the most comments is something like ``Man films cats, puts on YouTube'' or ``Star Wars: 35 Years Later''.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 0:49

>>14
Then post with your phone. Unless they want to hellban 150M+ people, they'd be stupid to ban those ranges.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 4:34

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 5:53

Paul Graham is a faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 6:41

>>20
He's not. He banged Leah Culver.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 6:56

>>21
Then he's a [b][i]Double FAGGOT[/b][/i].

Also, speaking of doubles....

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 7:55

>>22
You are the faggot. Leah is cute. Leah is sexy.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 8:13

>>21

source? This would be fucking hilarious if true.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 8:28

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 8:31

>>24
She even banged a /prog/rider:
http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1231572989/38

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 10:59


                                                                               
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Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 11:01

>>23
Leah is not cute nor sexy.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 11:11

>>28
YES SHE IS CUTE AND SEXY!

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 19:03

>>18
Then post with your phone. Unless they want to hellban 150M+ people, they'd be stupid to ban those ranges.
SMS authentication - ultimate anti-troll solution.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 19:05

>>30
Ultimate anti-knowledgeable-user solution.  Combine that with a real name policy and you have successfully turned HN into Facebook.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 20:23

>>31
Stop acting like you're a Stallman.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 20:30

>>30
Then use Google Voice.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 20:32

>>32
Stallman invented privacy concerns.
Stallman invented paranoia.
Stallman invented free software.

You /g/ fagshits and your false attributions.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 22:01

>>31
We're stuck with the names we're born with, but we choose our screen names and email addresses. It's a chance to show that we're cool, creative, individual. Many wannabes choose unwisely, without realizing it. It seems cool to go with a screen name that indicates a "gangsta" attitude, for instance, but if a potential game biz employer gets an email from "jailburd@hotmail.org" he's not going to feel particularly inclined to reply. Someone who is so passionate about games that his friends call him crazy might try to showcase this special characteristic by choosing the moniker "insanedude" - that's very cute, but when he goes jobhunting in earnest, this screen name will not be helping him. Remember -- when you contact someone in the game biz, you're entering the world of business. Comport yourself accordingly.
Some kinds of words to avoid in screen names in the world of business:
Words that hint at the use of any kind of drugs.
Words that allude to bodily functions.
Words that smack of criminal activity of any kind.
Words that indicate mental defect, or any kind of sickness.
Words that hint that you'd rather do something else besides work on games.
Screen names that are tricky to type (using a zero instead of an upper-case "o" or a one instead of a lower-case "L," for instance).
Words that hint at sexual activity.
Pretty much any screen name that would make a teenaged guy laugh ought to be reconsidered before using it to communicate with business professionals. It's fine to be creative, but be smart.
And lastly, make sure you sign business communications with your real name. Even if posting on bulletin boards or newsgroups, what's the harm in letting people know your name? I understand using a human-readable anti-spam device when typing in your email address, but isn't your humanity more important than your anonymity?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 22:13

>>35
Ah ha! My email address is what's keeping me from getting a job! It all makes sense now.

Name: Integer 2013-02-10 22:42

>>32
Fuck off, dipshit.

>>35
Dear enlarged anus,

I know this is kopipe and trolling, but I'll reply anyway.

We're stuck with the names we're born with, but we choose our screen names and email addresses. *snip* accordingly.
I heard this crazy rumour that you could create different email addresses for different purposes; the email you use to communicate with the gay teledildonics mailing list needs not be the same as you work email, and you can withhold your name in the former case (and with the help of privacy-enhancing software, make it nearly impossible for anyone to find it out).

Even if posting on bulletin boards or newsgroups, what's the harm in letting people know your name?
Because they don't need to.  Pseudonyms or tripcodes are all that is required to make conversations easier to track or to authenticate one's postings (which may be done with GPG).  Basic rule of security, if someone doesn't need to know something, they shouldn't.

I understand using a human-readable anti-spam device when typing in your email address, but isn't your humanity more important than your anonymity?
Fuck that shit and fuck you.

Signed,
Integer

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 23:02

>>37
You'll never get a gamedev job.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-10 23:28

>>38
Thank you, that's very nice of you.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-11 1:29

>>38
``gamedev'' is shit for niggers and kikes (which are also niggers)

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