/prog/ - DIY molecular synthesis?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 2:52

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jul/21/chemputer-that-prints-out-drugs

Let's see.
i. Pharma industry is enraged at the potentially massive loss of profits as people can just synthesize drugs at home without paying for a license.
ii. Pharma industry lobbies regulators to lock down the devices; since hungry billionaire interests aren't a very good enough reason, use War on Drugs pretext instead.
iii. http://boingboing.net/2012/08/23/civilwar.html

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 3:35

ITT DIY home chemistry, print your way to better health! What could possibly go wrong?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 3:53

>>2
People who can't use computers darwin themselves out of the gene pool and open the path to programmer supremacy?

Name: 20% /prog/ related 2013-02-08 3:54

>>1
https://boards.4chan.org/diy/
https://boards.4chan.org/ck/
https://boards.4chan.org/sci/
https://boards.4chan.org/g/

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 3:55

>>1
enjoy your united states

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 3:56

>>2
Regardless of who synthesis, it is still for the better. I mean, who does not have their own chem lab?

Name: >>6 2013-02-08 3:57

s/synthesis/synthesizes/

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 4:01

>>4
I don't go on those.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 4:15

>>6
There are licensed doctors, pharmacists and scientists who spend their lives working on drugs that treat something but also unintentionally cause side effects. What makes you think your average idiot will know better about synthesis than these guys? IMO, if people really want to learn about drugs, why not study pharmacology at university?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 4:17

>>9
nah its not that diffcult. i grow my own marijana and never studied anything

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 4:19

>>9
Your average idiot can download file "ceftriaxone.syn" from biowarez.info and make the machine synthesize and produce a dose of it for a fraction of what it would cost to get it in the pharmacy.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 4:21

>>10
That's because you probably live in a warm country where you can just let it grow without much caring.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 4:23

>>10
grows marijuana
I'm a pharmacologist and a botanist

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 4:28

>>13
quoting text that's not in the post

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 4:35

>>14
Assburger austisma is a serious disease. You should try out this chemical synthesis to cure it. http://boards.4chan.org/r9k

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 4:39

>>15
/polecat ker9kabs/

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!fR8duoqGZdD/iE5 2013-02-08 5:07

Not surprising. This sort of controversy even happens in the VN translation scene...

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 5:19

>>17
I didn't know the VN development was a billion dollar industry...

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 7:06

>>11
The point is about normal people who self-medicate. If they don't know the effects of the chemicals according to their body status, they'll deserve everything they get.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 7:23

>>19
Thus solving the overpopulation problem.

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!fR8duoqGZdD/iE5 2013-02-08 7:23

>>18
Not about money but ego, however same sentiment about tech advances making it easier for everyone and decreasing their exclusivity.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 9:45

>>19
Around here you go to the doctor (which is free thanks to NATIONAL-WIDE INSURANCE), and the doctor writes you a prescription for a drug that costs >50$. The latter is not covered by the insurance and you have to shell out cash for it.

But yeah, a few morons are probably going to synthesize and play with chemicals before consulting a doctor, in which case >>20 applies.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 11:04

>>19
The regulatory solution is simple then -- if you synthesize and ingest chemicals that haven't been prescribed to you by a doctor, then your health insurance is cancelled (because why should everyone else pay for your retardedness).

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 13:36

will this actually allow me to synthezise lsd?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 13:57

wich molcul wuld u synth?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 16:35

>>23
Depends on the insurance. You can legally say accidental poisoning and get away with it. But like >>2,6,19,20 said, does who can't, adiós.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 16:44

>>26
It becomes a matter of public (i.e. government-level) policy in countries with cool free healthcare, so it's important that the government rejects insurance for retards who misuse synthesizers instead of putting idiotic restrictions on the synthesizers themselves.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 16:46

>>24
Probably. It's not legal, but considering how it's an inherently private and victimless crime (unless you start selling it to other people like the greedy ferengi you are), it would probably be impossible to enforce. It could also cause a moral panic thanks to the large concentration of idiots in the general population.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 16:48

doesn't work, won't work

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 19:42

>>28
i meant wether it would work you fucking idiot. sounds unlikely.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 19:58

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Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 20:04

>>1
What about printing meth? This world becomes crazier and crazier...

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 20:48

ENTERPRISE BLOTTER LAB

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 21:06

war on drugs seems like a reasonable reason....

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 21:09

>>34
That's it, blunt every kitchen knife because someone might use one as a weapon.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 21:13

>>35
It is illegal to use a knife to kill people, I was not implying implementing restrictions, just prosecutions after the illegal action, say, making a meth lab

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 21:16

>>36
Production, consumption and sale of metamphetamines is already illegal in most jurisdictions. What is the point of adding superfluous laws when the existing ones do just fine? Also, private production and consumption (without distribution or sale) of such drugs would probably end up being tolerated or even legalized. Don't count on your insurance company to pay your medical bills if you do that, though.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 22:32

Not programming related.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 22:43

>>37
Are you fucking serious? They can seize cash over certain amounts under suspicious of drug trade involvement. Why oh why are you even insinuating that new laws require justification beyond a single soundbyte?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-08 23:36

>>39
Sagefault (thread bumped)

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-09 0:57

>>40
I know, fuck off.

DIY molecular synthesis?

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