Diaspora real time chat

D* needs a real time chat, but uses heroku, which only permits port 80.

So, XMPP and cryptocat are no good.

Any ideas, /prog/?

Use Facebook, duh.

(Or buy a fucking VPS. Jesus Christ, I looked at Heroku's web site and wanted to kill myself due to all the enterprise bullshit.)

Diaspora uses GPG which uses RSA/ElGamal both of which are breakable by quantum computers (Schor's algorithm works on both integer factorization and discrete log). Therefore it's shit until GPG supports some post-quantum cryptosystems.

>>2

I've suggested OpenShift, but they are too stubborn.
I wished /prog/ [b][u][o] EXPERT PROGRAMMERS[/b][/u][/o] would fork Diaspora and do something great.

Jewish diaspora

>>4 you're a disgrace to enterprise brogrammers who know how to bbcode and readi bicp today

AJAX that saves input as a file then sends parts to each recipient (without ever deleting the file)

>>4
If it has the word "cloud" in its description, it's shit. Suggest a dedicated server.

XMPP works just fine on port 80, idiots.

>>9

"XMPP is a different protocol from HTTP, it requires a server running on a different port. on a Heroku install, you only get 1 outbound port: 80. Since we want to maintain compatibility with Heroku, and we recognize that Heroku installs make up the bulk of DIASPORA pods (as well as being the most dead-simple way to get a pod going and "own your data"), I don't think XMPP would be the right solution for us at this time.

The use of XMPP itself would be an interesting exploration for a social network, however. it kind-of has federation built in to the protocol, and separating federation to its own application protocol would allow us to focus the Rails app development on making the site look nice and behave well. If we had double the contributors and a whole team dedicated to implementing federation over XMPP, and Heroku magically allowed us to run XMPP servers on their network, this might be an option. But unfortunately, I don't see it being in the realm of reality. Again, I'd be extremely excited to integrate XMPP with DIASPORA because I think it would change the game for us, but I don't see a way we can do it while maintaining backwards compatibility..."

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"Here is the problem :
Heroku only accepts communication using the port 80, so we can't use a solution already created like jappix mini. The only way to add a chat for Diaspora (as far as we know) is to implement it directly inside Diaspora. And, as everybody here is volunteer, nobody has the time to work on it for the moment, unfortunately.

So, if you want a chat in Diaspora, just find someone who can develop it. We will enjoy introduce the project to him."

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https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/pull/1750

Ruby on Rails and Heroku both suck. Take this shit to /g/.

>>11

They are discussing dropping Heroku. Suggest something.
https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/pull/1750

Concerning Ruby on Rails, I agree. Too bad it's too big of a project to rewrite now.

If it ain't Lisp, it's crap.

IRC too old-school for you?

>>14
OTR doesn't work on IRC.

>>15
STOMP too new for you?

_{http://stomp.github.com/}

>>16
STOMP MY ANUS

CONNECT
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Want me slit your laryngeal prominence, next?



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I understand how MVC works for the web (m = database, v = output/html, c = process, get stuff from m, process and pass to v)

But how does this work in Java?

>>19
Very, very slowly.

fucking shit.

>>21
check 'em.

>>10
it's 21st century already, http is transport level protocol now, retard. lrn2 http-bind.
>>14
irc is absolutely counter-scientific and has long list of proofs of its ultimate destructivness.
xmpp is a huge pile of shit anyways

Why don't you just pass your data through 80 port? Whats wrong with this number?

>>24
Because you can't assign multiple protocols to one port.

>>25
Moron.

>>26
lel
you have been tricked, bamboozled and rused

>>27
FUCK YOU FAGGOT I FUCKING HATE YOU

>>28
YOUR RESISTANCE ONLY MAKES MY PENIS HARDER
Oh wait Im impotent and an M

>>29
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>>7

Well, by that logic, users could just register on any open jabber server (or on their own) and Diaspora is just a web-based client to that...
I am not completely convinced.

Maybe something based on WebRTC would be better suited.

>>30
my penis is nilpotent, after three pumps it goes limp

>>21

I am not completely convinced.

Why not? If so, I can say I'm not convinced that Diaspora needs a chat altogether - there are tons of XMPP servers around. And if the chat is to be used - it should be XMPP based for interoperability, so its users won't be limited to the web client, and could use their standalone clients of preference as well. And of course for the sake of chat federation with the rest of the XMPP networks. And you don't want to reinvent the wheel - i.e. writing your XMPP server from scratch, when there are already very good solutions around. Whether to run it on the same host or on the other becomes a minor issue if you think of it.

WebRTC is not an IM protocol, it's just an API for browsers to access media streams. XMPP is an IM protocol which uses Jingle for media streams (i.e. VoIP). Making Jingle through WebRTC is a possibility, but XMPP servers should support such thing first for browsers to be able to use them (the same way they need to support Bosh or WebSockets for browsers to even use XMPP itself) I.e. it's not coming out of the box, so someone should research how mature or even existing is WebRTC support in the current XMPP servers. I don't think Diaspora should try to cover it all (i.e IM and VoIP) at the same time - it's a big pile of work really. Making IM (XMPP chat) first would be already a big step. Media calls can always be the second phase.

>>33
nice dubz

By the way words murder and moor are related as both come from the ancient Sanskrit root m*r meaning death (other words with this root are mort, muerte, мёртвый)

>>23
[citation needed]
there's always pf, and decoding out the things you do not need of the ircd

I can't believe that /prog/ is talking about SOCIAL NETWORKS

>>37

It's better a decentralized social network than fagbook.

Also, ``pods'' can be used as intranet. Inform yourself, this has broad uses.

>>37
Fuck off, already. Don't tell us what we should discuss or not. Your pathetic use of old gimmicks does not give you any kind of authority.

>>38
A better turd is still a turd.

>>38
You don't seem to understand. There's no ``better'' social network, because social networks are shit for fags.

>>39
Back to Reddit.

>>37
/prog/ is a social network. Just semi-anonymous.


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Why is everything backwards?

>>41
Even if the end result is always shit for faggots, there are still differences in implementation quality.

>>45
I don't really care about a better implemented turd for fags.

>>46
turd