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PI is a variable.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 7:38

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080708162347AAh4RJ4
A variable is an unknown

but no one ever calculated or seen value of Pi, so Pi must be unknown. Besides, even on different SBCL implementations Pi has different values.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 7:55

Besides, even on different SBCL implementations Pi has different values.
Different versions, perhaps?  Science does not stay still, as a friend of mine said on a similar occasion.

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!fR8duoqGZdD/iE5 2013-01-04 7:56

>>2
At least on x86(7) it should always have the same value.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 8:20

>>3
Russian anon just found, Pi has different values:
http://0chan.hk/c/res/11804.html#12166
http://0chan.hk/c/res/11804.html#12167

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 8:24

#define PI 3.1

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 9:23

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Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 12:51

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fagshit

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 13:03

int pi = 3;

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 13:16

>>6
I fucking lol'd.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 19:49

π is a constant, not a variable. If it were a variable you could take a derivative with respect to it, which you can't.

π is not unknown, just irrational, which means it can't be expressed in bases such as base-10. In base-π, π would 10, and 1 would be irrational, but that doesn't mean 1 is unknown.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 20:45

In base-π, [...] 1 would be irrational

1π = π0 = 110, sorry bro.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 22:35

>>11
Wrong. Let's say you define a base-π with 3 digits, {0, 1, 2}.

If 1π = 110, then
1π + 1π = 2π = 210
1π + 1π + 1π = 10π = 310

That's base-3, not base-π.

For base-π with digits {0, 1, 2}, you have to define 1π = π/310 = 1.0471975512...

110 would have to be some fraction of that number, which is irrational.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 23:34

>>10
π is a constant, not a variable.
Then why do you refer to it by symbolic name, instead of it's value?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 23:36

>>10
π is not unknown, just irrational, which means it can't be expressed
If it can't be seen or expressed, then it is unknown. Do you know God?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 23:40

>>14
You can imagine it as a procedure that can give arbitrary accuracy. Probably the best way to think about any ``infinite'' series, since it's pretty much the only way to construct one.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 23:49

>>15
"procedure that can give arbitrary accuracy" is a variable. It depends on "accuracy" value, which is also a variable.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 23:55

>>16
Real numbers are defined as equivalence classes of the limits of infinite converging series of rational numbers.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 23:57

>>14
π is known. It's the circumference divided by the diameter of any circle.

``But I can't express it with 0-9 therefore it's unknown!''

You build a rocket ship with the alphabet either, I guess rocket ships are unknown.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 0:02

mathematics considered bullshite.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 0:07

>>16
The important part is that we can prove properties for all accuracies. And we can treat it as a ``constant'' if we analyze it by it's properties (which is the way you treat other constructs as well). I agree that it's not an actually expandable value.

I understand a variable just to mean that you can perform substitution on it. Here accuracy would be a variable of the procedure π(A), but the procedure itself is not a variable. Of course you can argue this, I'd like to see your definition of a variable.

Actually a fun idea to expand on procedures is that you could have different implementations that act like π(A). I guess you could think of 'π' as a standard, a group of properties it has to satisfy.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 0:15

>>17
A rather ugly way in my opinion, asserting an ``infinite'' is not needed to get the same set of rules. The important bit is the rule of induction, which interestingly enough doesn't need to know a bound. I wouldn't take the step to claim that there is a boundless object.

Perhaps boundless is the wrong word, since a ring A>B>C>A would be without bounds and still finite.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 7:00

>>17
equivalence classes of the limits of infinite converging series
and they say tdavis is "crazy"...

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 7:21

>>14
It can be expressed.  I propose a number system with base equal to circumference divided by the diameter radius of any circle.  In that system, $\tau$ will be written as $10$, and $\pi$ will simply mean $\frac{\tau}{2}$.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 10:33

>>23
Fuck off with your tau bullshit, hipster kike.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 14:06

>>24
Cretinoid piece of shit.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 14:11

>>24
They say that physicists hate the idea of replacing π with τ, but I'm a physicist and I loved τ the moment I've read the manifesto.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 14:44

>>26
physicists are retards.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 18:10

Rhysicists are petards

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 18:38

>>27
fuck off and die in a fire, cretin.

>>26
Same here. It's hard to break the habit, though.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 22:13

Anyone who seriously cares about using τ instead of π is a fucking retard with too much time on their hands. It's a pointless idea, even more pointless than metric time or gradians. Remove yourself from the company of thinking people, faggots, because you are only wasting their time.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-05 22:28

>>30
fuck you cretin faggot

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-06 0:11

>>3
~ $ man 7 x86
No entry for x86 in section 7 of the manual

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-06 0:39

some of the intelligent explanations of pi notwithstanding, this is some of the most retarded convos on the subject, at a cellular level.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-01 13:25


There was no spiraling, just an explosion of exposition and then suddenly you were supposed to be sympathizing with her. After that the story didn't develop practically anywhere during the route. Maybe that exposition dump had some biased effect on some people after the nothingness of common route, but either way it was terrible story development.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-01 14:56


 What are these two talking about on such a fine day?

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