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All languages should be compiled

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 3:39

Death to interpreters.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 3:50

I actually agree with you.

Don't tell anybody.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 4:07

>>1
sure, call me when you can compile newLISP. all languages can be compiled, some are hard, some may result in a runtime bloat that is just isn't worth it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 4:15

but what about cgi

but what about writing simple scripts for routine tasks

but what about writing multiplatform code that anyone can run

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 4:20

cgi
Can be done just fine with compiled languages

but what about writing simple scripts for routine tasks
Write a simple script, then compile it.

but what about writing multiplatform code that anyone can run
Write portable code and give out the source code.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 4:38

>>1
Because compiled code is always faster right?

http://software-lab.de/radical.pdf

Hint: it's not.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 5:40

>>6
Thanks for the read!

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!fR8duoqGZdD/iE5 2012-11-15 5:58

>>6
That comparison is as valid as saying a bubblesort written in optimised Asm can beat a compiled quicksort for sufficiently small sizes.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 6:22

THAT WAS BERZERKELEY QUALITY

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 7:00

>>8
Except the comparison was two Lisp implementations doing the exact thing. Strawman much?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 8:07

>>8
That comparison is as valid as comparing a penis to a vagina on the basis of sexual gratification.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 9:50

>>11
When your ear is itchy and you scratch it, which gets more sexual gratification? Ear or finger?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 9:55

>>12
Except both penises and vaginas get sexual gratification, at the same time.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 10:00

>>13
Assuming the penis doesn't belong to a programmer, that is.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 10:21

>>13
[b][i]OK YOU FUQIN ANGERED AND [u]EXPERT PARTNER[/u/]
GODFUCKIGNDAMN
FIRST OF ALL, YOU DONT FUQIN KNOW WHAT A CLITORIS IS
SECONDLY, THIS IS /prog/ DO NOT DEMAND USEFUL ANSWERS THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO BE
THIRDLY COPULATION IS ALL ABOUT PHILOSOPHY AND ``ABSTRACT BULLSHITE'' THAT YOU WILL NEVER COMPREHEND
AND FUQIN LASTLY, FUCK OFF WITH YOUR BULLSHYT
EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED IN >>6,11,12[/i][/b]

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 10:52

i agree

this would increase adoption of javascript, which is unfortunately not happening as fast as the cs world needs it to. javascript is the only dynamic language whose designers were actually smart enough to create a jit compiler worth mention. being the fastest and most memory-efficient jitted language, this really should be no surprise to anyone.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 15:36

>>16
javascript guy, please respond

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 15:40

>>17
There's only one guy here who even mentions javascript (except me, just now), and that's you, cretin-kun.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 15:42

>>18
i've always wanted to know why the javascript guy likes javascript

i've asked him infinitely many times but he never replies

it's like he doesn't really love his favorite language, i just want to know why he likes it so much, when even the people who use js entirely have their pet peeves about it

but he never replies to my posts

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 16:29

>>19
closures, callbacks, prototypes, and functional programming, and being insanely fast. webgl typed arrays. mozilla.

what's not to love?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 16:42

>>20
mozilla.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 16:49

>>20
Fake ``asynchronous'' callbacks
Wet-flannel OOP idiocy
``Functional'' programming (if it was intentional, why isn't function shorter?)
Fast in the same way you can actually polish a turd if you try hard enough (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorodango)
Other (more sane) languages have had typed arrays since at least the 70s

Disclaimers: Not quoting, just using quotes as bullet points. Also, I do actually write Javascript in day-to-day life.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 16:49

>>20
callbacks are bad, closures is implicit in functional programming, the shootout begs to differ, what the hell is that, mozilla?

i think you must be joking after all

thanks anyway for replying, javascript guy

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-15 17:18

>>22
lambda isn't much shorter anyway.
Which is fun, because lisp comes with a nice set of quoting aliases! (._.)

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!fR8duoqGZdD/iE5 2012-11-18 6:09

>>10
Bubblesort and quicksort are "doing the exact thing" at some level too: they sort.

The two implementations are very different; they're comparing a very minimal stripped-down interpreter to a large mature system with many features, and I'm almost certain the compiled code ended up being longer than the interpreter's execution trace.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 8:20

>>25
Exactly. which is why the argument stands. Not every compiled Lisp is necessarily faster than an interpreted one. Not sure why you keep beating around the bush on that one...

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 10:00

>>22
Use * next time.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 10:07

>>27
Use my anus, you rabbid nigger cunt.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 13:42

op is so edgy

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 14:33

Terrible!

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 16:49

>>6,10,11,26
Which is why PPP, Ruby, Lua, Smalltalk, Erlang, v8, take the most fucking time just initializing variable to RAM to the somersault at the least 3 actions to say one fucking statement.

That article is biased since it only implement a LISP dialect, not the other shitty scripting languages, or Guile FTM.

>>1,2
I merit although, that some scripting/interpreting is still required for other mundane ``quickfix// applications. But obviously we agree for real programs, compiled should be the way to go. Dynamically loading Kernel modules are my prime example of why scripting is still awesome, and maybe for the quickhaxor that needs something done when something went terribly wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 17:09

All languages should be compiled to JavaScript and run in a Web browser's interpretor!j

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 17:10

``I had to be done in ten days or something worse than JS would have happened''
-- Brendan Eich

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 17:25

>>33
good thing we got JS, because if something REALLY bad got in the browser instead, nacl would be everywhere by now

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 17:31

>>34
i don't understand your post

and nacl seems more interesting (and potentially insecure) than javashit

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 17:35

>>35
what i mean is... we could have ended up with nacl

fortunately we didn't, and got something better: javascript

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 17:39

>>36
oh, fuck offthen

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 17:46

The entire network stack would benefit from a rewrite, not just your browsing scripts. But updating closed firmware is unfeasible, and replacing hardware is expensive.

But really, how difficult is to write a LLVM scripting engine?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 18:45

I want to believe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Native_Client

but hopefully it will have no holes.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 18:48

>>39
This is dumb. Just run things not-on-the-web.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 18:50

>>40
did you notice chrome os and firefox os? browser-based operating systems are the future. 5 years from now, there will be no native code.

fortunately, i'm a happy javascript user

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 18:51

>>40
security

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 18:52

>>41
Why are you such an insufferable kike, Javashit fagstorm?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 18:52

>>41
Enjoy le facebook OS, fagshit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 18:53

>>40
did you notice lisp os and lisp machines? lisp-based operating systems are the future. 5 years from now, there will be a mix of interpreted sexps and native code.

fortunately, i'm a happy lisp user

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 18:55

>>43-44
I think the best way of expel a terrible troll from [/spoiler]/prog/[/spoiler] is to ignore him, guys.

>>45
A man can dream.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 19:00

>>46
And a single man or woman or other person that does not classify eyself within the gender binary can do it too!

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 19:03

>>47
Women, faggots and biologicaly-male faggots can't Lisp, silly Shlomo.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 19:13

>>46
Contrary to popular belief, ignoring a troll is the worst thing to do.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 19:15

>>49
[citation needed]

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 19:19

>>50
See >>49

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 19:21

>>51
Error: Circular reference detected

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 19:25

>>52
impossible unless a post refers to itself or a post written in the future.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 19:27

>>53
Let's leave it at an infinite loop.


>>51
I asked for a reference for >>49, so, again,

[citation needed]

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 19:45

OMG NOT ON MY MICROCODED CPU BEEEE-YATCH

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-18 21:58

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