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A book I consider important

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 1:29

http://dump.udderweb.com/CODE.pdf

http://www.amazon.com/Code-Language-Computer-Hardware-Software/dp/0735611319

The author, Petzold, has been mentioned on /prog/ before, but AFAIK only in the context of his MS Windows books.

This one is different, because it helped me understand the nature of information, how it is part of reality and was so even before people existed.  In that way, it helped me understand what functional programming is.  (I'm sure that there is more than one path to that place, but this is the one I took.)

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:51

Whenever I rent textbooks I scan and digitize them.

Name: rentboys 2012-10-20 19:53

rentboys

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:58

I lost two of my textbooks this semester. I went frantically looking for them until I decided to search for digital copies. I found both.

Thank you, >>62-sama.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:59

I'm in my fourth year of university, I've never purchased a single textbook (dead tree or otherwise).  Thanks, >>62.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:04

Remember library.nu?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:12

>>66
Yes.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 23:52

>>50
Now we're getting somewhere. Just because you can't afford something, stealing it doesn't stop it from being stealing. If you were a hungry hobo and you stole a bread, that's stealing and you're a thief. Again, it's plain and simple.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:01

>>68
good-evil dichotomy
Fuck off, Luther.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:16

>>68
It's year 4e5 BC.  A tribe of Homo Erectus has just discovered how to make and master fire.  In order to maintain an advantage, they keep fire-making a secret and sell lit torches to other tribes.  A neighbouring tribe purchases a lit torch from the fire masters' tribe, then makes it into a big fire and gives it away to other tribes for free; is that stealing?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:18

>>69
Why can't people just admit it's stealing? Just because stealing is something undignified, you can't redefine what stealing is and is not just because you're also doing it. That's makes you even more of a scum than a petty food thief. At least he knows and admits it's stealing.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:21

>>70
No, and it's not analogous to pirating books, music or software. Dumb question.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:28

>>72
"Piracy"
Publishers often refer to copying they don't approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.)

If you don't believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.”

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Piracy

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:30

>>70
Homo erectus died out long before 4.02e5 years ago

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:31

>>71
Fuck off, troll.  Come back with logical arguments.

>>72
Yes it is, and it's a perfectly valid metaphor.  Both fire and information can be shared without affecting the original.  Sharing information ,,devalues'' it in a scarcity economy, the same way that sharing fire in the metaphor devalues it for the fire masters.  However, neither sharing fire or information is stealing.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:35

>>74
Source?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:35

Fire isn't intellectual property.

Dumb analogy

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:36

>>77
It's a metaphor, Captain Autism.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:37

>>78
No, it's an analogy, Mr. ESL. And a failed one.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:39

>>79
Metaphor is a type of analogy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:39

The wood is like the clock cycles remaining on your computer, a physical non-duplicable contraption that required direct exploitation of the environment to acquire.
The burning is an application running on it which is a duplicable process. Sounds like a strong analogy.
But its a stronger case against patents since it is a process and not a literary work, if patents existed in 4e5 BC this would be patentable.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:40

>>75
Books, music and software among other things are creative intellectual works. It takes effort to create one. If you go down the path of equating them to mere patterns of 0s and 1s then you're belittling the authors and not compensating them for their work. That's stealing.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:41

You're both wrong. It's a simile.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:49

>>82
I didn't say they shouldn't be compensated for their magnificent intellectual work, I just said file sharing isn't stealing.  Criminalizing information sharing isn't the only way to ensure compensation, you know.  Read up about the ,,global licence'' system that was proposed in France.

>>79
Mr. ESL
Actually, it's my third language, so that's quite complimentary.  Thank you!

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 0:52

>>84
LS?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 1:04

>should
fuck you moralfaggot, i do what i want, i will steal if i can.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 1:31

>>86
You sound like a Jew.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 1:33

>>85
What's ,,LS''?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 2:14

>>77
every time you start a fire, you must pay royalties to the first human to have started a fire.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 2:44

>>86
Back to the imageboards, "please'`!!!

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 3:46

>>88
Are your initials LS?
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