Employers

I find it astounding how widespread is the perception of workers as loyal vassal dogs who will go to war and die for you:

Job hoppers are the first people to the door.  They’re self centered.  They don’t have a sense of loyalty to you despite the risks you took with them.  They don’t understand the word commitment.  Believe me – you WILL have dark days.  And you will only have a handful of people you trust.  That person you’re thinking about hiring who’s 30 and had 5-6 jobs ins’t one of them about right now.

Loyalty to your company, seriously?  Ripping our asses apart making your product and not getting anything in return, aside from maybe a small bonus (a $5000 raise for a multi-million-profit-generating invention is considered generous).

If you, during an interview, pose as a supplier of specialist's time and energy (who you really are) and behave like you are competing with other suppliers for a supply contract, and show that you want to sell them your time and energy in exchange for their money, nothing more, nothing less, you will not ever get hired.  Businesses do not seek rational and logical suppliers, they seek loyal and happy slaves (``team players'').  They expect us to be loyal to their company and their product without being loyal to us to a slightest degree.

BTW the quote is from http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/04/22/never-hire-job-hoppers-never-they-make-terrible-employees/

Here's another gem:

I also avoid hiring people who have been independent consultants for the past 5 years “advising” companies on the sideline.  I know, I know.  I just added a whole new slew of people to hate me, but while they might make good consultants or even full-time contractors, they seldom make great permanent employees.  They’ve already voted with their careers that they’re not “company people.”  Yes, they too have their excuses.  ”It was a tough economy.  I had to do what I could to earn money.”  Cough.  If you want to hire them as contractors fine. They’re not bad people.  Just don’t give up one of your valuable full-time management positions.

Excuses for not being a fucking slave.  Fuck off, both-sides-of-the-table-san.

You’re only about the money and yourself.”  Believe me – people WILL offer you employees more money.  Job hoppers take it.

— I have allowed you to work on my great ideas and you, you!..

>>1
I get both points. It basically comes to the law of demand and supply, on both sides.
Employers/Management need to make as much profit from your work.
And you need the pay and recognition.

The best method to satisfy both demand and supply is to do contract work. Employers place their NDA, and you place your terms. Then bid.

Firms/Groups do better at these than lone contractors.

The solution is to create a cooperative

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative

>>6
Doesn't work economically.

I've never seen a programmers cooperative, but on other areas, they work

of course, a cooperative can be never as big as a classic corporation but that is out of the cooperative scope

>>7
The Co-Op is still going strong, actually.

>>1
Supply and demand. You programming job is only worth $60000+ according to skill and experience. If you start your own company, you invest a lot more risk in the venture than some CS graduate that invest four years in university.

>>10
Software companies usually don't require a lot of special equipment, so it's only expensive to establish a software company if you spend a long period of time building up an internal library, and this is less of an issue now that open source tools are more prevalent. If you start from scratch it will take a long time before you can compete with the large corporations that have massive amounts of internal tools and thousands of programmers maintaining them. Instead you have to satisfy a different niche the big companies don't address.

>>10-11
You need charisma and good looks to start a profitable company. If you're an overweight neckbeard, you'd have to give your products away for free. Compare Culver to Stallman.

>>12
Most jews are butt-ugly, yet they always seem to be successful in starting a company.

And the Stallman is not selling anything, he is a hobo philosopher.