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Why is TeX such a mess?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-22 10:52

The simplest, modern route to using TEX is to download TeX Live, but it's such a huge mess. Even the lightest installation can be hundreds of megabytes, and there are so many files it needs its own package management system.

Why can't I just download pdftex and run pdftex foo.tex and get a PDF? Why is there so much cruft for what is supposed to be ``traditional'' UNIX software?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 6:36

You would think that TeX's idiosyncrasies makes it mostly a useless piece of shit that has no place in the modern world, but sadly there is no other markup language you can easily embed that matches it in its functionality. Yes, I'm looking at you microshaft, and your shitty ``Equation editor''. But, for anything else it's highly useless, so I wrote my thesis in goddamn Microsoft Word, and put in my overtly complex mathematical equations in by writing in TeX, saving the code separately and exporting them as images to the Word document. First class honours, by the way.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 6:55

>>41
You are the rapist who perpetuates the rape culture.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 10:08

>>41
fuck you illogical cretin

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 10:46

>>42
>>43
Cry me a river. I am infallible.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 11:32

>>41
But did you paste those images into Paint, screenshot them, crop them, and then import them into Word with the wrong aspect ratio?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 12:07

>>44
Optimize your quotes and stop using retarded idioms, ``please''.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 12:23

Don't bother with TeX for anything but math papers; it's a waste of time. Use HTML instead. That's right, you heard me.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 12:28

>>47
But HTML is designed for display, not print! What about proper word wrapping? What about hyphenation? What about my hipster 1800s ligatures?!

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 14:00

>>48
Explain this!
<style media="print" type="text/css">

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 16:31

>>49
It prints it on the screen.

And you call yourself a programmer. Tsk!

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 17:10

>>50
Nigger.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 21:26

>>51
Tsk.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 23:39

>>5
The trick with micro languages is knowing when you've hit the limits of what the language was designed to do. If you expect to hit that barrier early you probably should choose a different language.

>>6
We are nowhere near the point of being able to create a unified schema to represent every UI element and combination that someone could conceivably desire to use. You can blame the UI designers for that, I suppose.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 15:03

>>53
We are nowhere near the point of being able to create a unified schema to represent every UI element and combination that someone could conceivably desire to use.
Why not? The various UI elements are fairly universal, well-defined and well-understood. Most large companies and interface developers put out documents on what should be used and how.

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