I'm starting a startup, but the thing is, i have 2 associates, they are average programmers like me, but they don't seem to like their job as much as i do.
Now, i'm preparing the environments (wikis, vps machines, accounts, languages, compilers, databases). I didn't asked them for help, but we discussed this many times, and we agreed that we should share the workload,
Now they know everything i'm doing, but i haven't yet received even a single message like "can i help?" or even "what are you doing".
Now, i'm feeling hopeless. I feel alone against the world, and if in this stage, just preparing for the projects, i don't get a helping hand, what can i expect later? I don't care for employees, i want partners.
if you want help you need to ask for it fag. If you can't learn a simple rule of communication like this then I have no idea what you are doing trying to do with starting a business.
fuck off, startup faggot. have fun reimplementing the wheel in hopes of replicating jewbook, only to find out all the VC money is gone and no money is coming in.
It won't work with them. The two associates I have in my startup - one comes to work earlier than me and leaves later than me, basically does all the heavy lifting. The other, sometimes wakes up at 6 p.m. but he is an expert programmer and while his bullshit gets tiring at times he gets shit done when he applies himself.
We had a fourth guy, but he was reluctant to leave his job so we just cut him off. You need dedication for this kind of shit, not to mention talent. I took one of my associates from his own startup, and could only do so because I saw him complain about how his former workmates did no work like how you're describing now. In the end that thing didn't work out.
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Anonymous2012-09-12 7:38
>>1
If they aren't 100% into this it will end badly no matter what. You'll have to compensate for their lack of commitment, and if by any luck you get anywhere at all you'll just feel massively cheated from giving lazy assholes equal shares of the company.
If your only interaction with these ``associates'' is through IRC or whatever medium these ``messages'' come from then it will end badly as well, telecommuting is for contractors and consultants.
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Anonymous2012-09-12 8:00
Do you have formal written systems in place that document and explain the roles and process involved? By the sound of things, I presume you don't. Whenever you're running a business, it's not enough to have the aptitude to do the work, you as the business director/manager, must also document the roles and processes for each role so that anybody with the proper skill can come in, learn the system and do the work.
To run a business, you must also have various other skills such delegation, time management, and internal business communications. With what you've presented here, you're woefully uneducated about the sort of work that's need in any business. It's certainly good that you are taking responsibility but you also need communication skills which include: convincing your colleagues to take responsibility and writing business process documents.
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Anonymous2012-09-12 9:58
>>7,8,9
Thanks guys. We are just a group of friends that happen to know programming and web design, we haven't did any formal separation of tasks. We discussed to create this company after a few beers on a bar, where we criticized our respective companies.
I guess i will have to take the initiative and treat them like the lazy asses they are now.
Sounds like you're doing a lot of bullshit to me. See, before you even start you need to get funding which wont happen unless you're a jew or you're a DBA "and that does not mean a database administrator you schmuck"!
Till then everyone including your palls will avoid you like the dumbass you are. The dollars must be there for sure!
I suggest you stop worrying about autist BS like VPN and databases and shit and write up a fricken good BP, then you run your mouth like a god damn hooker until some fucker bites.
Now you have money and can worry about finding people who'd do your shit.
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Anonymous2012-09-12 11:16
>>13
Or just write up a description and video and post it on Kickstarter and get a free 1 million dollars from all those silly kids.
>>14
We are not from the US. I don't know anyone that I trust in USA.
>>13
We have 2 customers, we agreed on funding. One customer is a small business,the other is a big one. Our main project kickoff is in two weeks.
We all have some savings that can last a couple of months. I know is not too much but we don't want to wait anymore.
What the fuck is a "BP"?
>>12
We are all programmers with knowledge of C, Java, Perl, SQL and others languages, but we know our share of CSS and shit like AJAX, Javascript and such. I don't know of anyone those days that is working on desktop apps.
>>17
We all worked on desktop apps back in the day (Visual C++, Delphi, VB, etc), written web services in old good C, but face it, nowadays productive work is mostly done via web apps.
The only desktop apps development i've seen those days are on very specific areas (Like risk-management in banks, for example), and mostly like maintenance tasks.
Even in those applications there is always some part of those systems that can be done with browsers. Specially for reporting.
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Anonymous2012-09-12 13:56
What startup? Sell all your property and share it with the poor, Marx wills it.
Sup Commuturk :3
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Anonymous2012-09-12 14:01
>>19
You're clueless. Your dinky little project is doomed to fail.