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Name: SEPPLES 2012-09-04 2:08

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Name: Anonymous 2012-09-04 3:01

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Name: Anonymous 2012-09-04 3:17

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Name: Anonymous 2012-09-04 6:50

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little sepple? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in 6.001, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Oracle, and I have over 300 confirmed repo merges. I am trained in lambda warfare and I’m the top EXPERT PROGRAMMER in the entire US Enterprise forces. You are nothing to me but just another bug. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking strings. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can hax your anus in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare cdr. Not only am I extensively trained in clojures, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Enterprise Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable anus off the face of the continent, you little lisper. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little ``clever'' comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will segfault in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

-G.J. Sussman, "The Structure and Implementation of Computer Programs"

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-04 7:07

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Taken out of the social context of software development in 2012, no, there's nothing wrong with asking if there are any attractive females present. If you asked if anyone else had a "hot programmer boy" in their office, probably no one would be offended, or if they were, not that much.

However, in the context of reality, where we live, and the comment was made, that is offensive, because the implication is that a female programmer in an office ought to be judged based on her looks, and not based on her ability. It encourages the awful stereotype (really more of a cliche, since it actually is so painfully fucking common) of the sexist douchebag male programmer who doesn't think of or treat women as equals. That cliche ends up being how you and I get judged. We have to always keep that in mind. Right or wrong, this is how people see the men of the software development industry. It's on us to change that perception.

The balance in our culture is so far on the side of "girls are sex objects, men are douche bags", that females considering coming into our industry and our communities feel very awkward and intimidated. If you've already steered the boat far to the left, you can't correct your course by simply not steering left any more; you have to actively work to go in the opposite direction.

We have grown up in this sexist culture, and if we want to get the benefits of a better programming culture, it's on us to actively correct it.

-Xarn the Offender, "How to Grow a Perfect Mangina"

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