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Programming Inspiration Story

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-01 21:56

Sup /prog/, what inspires you to program outside of work?  My inspiration to do programming outside of work is the demoscene.  I believe demoscene to be the only real place a programmer can be free.  Free to create anything one can imagine through mathematics, physics, algorithms and brutal coding.  There are no requirements, no customers to please, no manager to give you deadlines, nothing but your own creativity, curiosity and intelligence to create whatever you wish.  Forget about IDEs, editors, programming languages, and operating systems for they are not important, it is the ability to do anything with anything that is what is important in the demoscene.  I have seen programs which construct buildings and then tear them apart into little pieces.  I have seen pictures that zoom in and become mosaics of more pictures and the processes repeated 20 times over.  I have seen 3-D fractals the mind cannot imagine but which only math can make.  Some of the things I see, I can reverse engineer in mind and code and understand how it works.  Other times, I have no idea what is going on and my mind is blown.  Those times, I don't have the slightest clue what I am looking at.  To me the demoscene is a whole other universe in itself.  Creating demoscene for me is all about trusting my own abilities.  I remember when I first started programming 3d graphics I tried to convince my friends in university to try it as well.  Everyone said it was too hard and they didn't to mess around with 3-D coordinate systems and polygons.  The only way one can become good at demoscene is to not fear anything.  Not fear that anything is too hard and just start coding.  After I achieved this, it was as if a great weight was lifted from me, it is one of the best feelings in the world.  Since then, I have found that anything I can think of, I can program, whether it be iterated function system fractals, dynamical systems, convolution filters, software synthesizers, navier stokes discrete simulations...  Having worked in the audio/video drivers industry reading gigantic manuals for ogg vorbis encoding standards, programming operating systems for cell phones and now programming for optical transport, I am now completely desensitized to complexity and can handle any amount imaginable.  I no longer fear complexity.  To me, complexity is my friend, without it, coding would be too easy and therefore boring.  Now, demoscene has become the ultimate hobby where I can challenge myself.  As a fellow programmer, I hope that all programmers can find something that inspires them and open new doors to new universes.  There are unimaginable things out there and I can only feel sorry for those who never witness these things in their life.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-01 22:25

Boredom, loneliness and Asperger's.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-01 22:40

>>2
That's kind of sad...  try watching this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vguvli1Y0k

You can download the executable here (if you use windows and have a good video card):
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=56458

Farbrausch is one of the best demo groups.  Their demo's tend to be less abstract than most and are usually uplifting in style.  In this demo they demonstrate metaballs, fluid and soft matter simulations, and iterated function system fractals as well as beautiful 3-D artwork and music.  However most of the work they do use demo tools which streamline the processes whereas I prefer to code everything from scratch.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 1:31

INSPIRE MY ANUS

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 2:07

>>1
Demosceners are forced to use C/C++. So no, you cant forget about programming languages.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 4:39

>>3
amazing

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 5:59

>>5
Not always the case.

Anyway, everyone should watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRkZcTg1JWU

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!fR8duoqGZdD/iE5 2012-09-02 6:44

Over 38MB for a little over 251 seconds? Not very impressive.

This, however...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dcrV_7JpXQ

is over 600 seconds, in 64KB.

There's also this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGQEeArYDS8

This looks like a 64K, although I doubt it came from one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gfkluwgfww


Demoscene isn't (or shouldn't) be about creating complexity, but simplifying it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 11:14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gfkluwgfww
why the fuck am i twitching

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 19:10

Sup /acct/, what inspires you to do bookkeeping outside of work?  My inspiration to do bookkeeping outside of work is the qualitative cost accounting. I believe qualitative cost accounting to be the only real place an accountant can be free.  Free to record anything one can imagine through cash flow statements, shipping manifests, daybooks and brutal balance sheets.

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>>8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gfkluwgfww
I'll never address Mr. Cudder unpolitely anymore.

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Name: Anonymous 2012-10-29 17:21

Roller Coaster Tycoon was mostly written in assembly except for some system-dependent dialogs.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-29 17:23

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-29 17:26

>>16-17
you say this like if it were some newsflash

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-29 17:32

shame the game had such buggy pathfinding

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-29 17:34

>>18
Do we? Not everything posted on /prog/ is intended to be a newsflash, Anonymous-san!

Name: VIPPER 2012-10-29 17:40

Lisp is my blood, the lambda is my flesh.
Also >>2.

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Name: Anonymous 2012-11-07 8:13

I am upset about how my incredibly sarcastic post >>10 has been thoroughly ignored for two months

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-07 9:04

>>23
It sank in the ocean of spam.

Now I read it and it's pretty good.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-07 10:09

requesting resources to get into demoscene . Like books or something. Thanks

Name: Dinosaur 2012-11-11 7:35

The demoscene comes from the cracker scene, and considering the illegal status of software piracy, don't expect to find info about too easily. This is one of the reasons wikipedia lacks proper info on the demoscene.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-11 8:26

>>26
You should keep a spam thread alive. That's a great idea and will solve all your problems.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-11 11:42

I fart C sub-routines

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-11 13:25

i wrote a C compiler using Python
it only took me 20 minutes,
and 10 of those minutes were spent taking a shit and masturbating simultaneously

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-11 13:50

>>26
Not all demosceners are white, nigger.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-11 15:30

>>29
Python
podcast or gtfo

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-11 17:59

>>33
Nice dubs, bro!

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-11 18:05

>>32
Fuck off, fagshit!

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-11 18:26

>>33
No thank you!

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-11 18:38

>>33
Thanks bro!

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 0:20

i just like learning more. of course i'm still at the point were i am learning al ot


good day brothers

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 1:41

OP speaks the truth: the FOSS community is full of dipshits and autists who are obsessed with licensing and XKCD and 'geek culture' and all kinds of other bullshit that has nothing to do with programming. The demoscene probably has the most talented coders in the world; it takes a hell of a lot of skill to reverse engineer copy protection, much less embed an incredible 3d short film into a 30kb exe.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 6:09

>>37
xD

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 6:32

>>37
While demoscene hackers are undoubtedly talented, do they apply the same skill into writing easily portable, maintainable and extendible general purpose software? If not, they're just playing with toys.

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!fR8duoqGZdD/iE5 2012-11-12 6:49

>>39
That's what causes 99% of the GNU bloat.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 9:34

>>40
Fuck off, Cudder.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 10:20

>>41
He's right though.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 10:35

>>40
No, The C Programming Language is what causes 99% of the GNU bloat.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 10:37

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 10:37

i enjoy reading the work of javascript hackers

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 13:15

Every program in Plan 9 is portable to every other POSIX system. Does it use autotools and OS-specific header files and thirty #ifdefs before every piece of code? Of course not.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 14:03

>>46
back to the grave, uriel.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 14:49

Anyone wanna create a demoscene group with me?

We can write demos in Lisp.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 15:03

>>48
This is actually a great idea. All we need is nice evaluator functions and let the computer generate the data.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 15:08

>>49
Yup, that's how it's always worked.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 15:12

>>46
How do the plan9utils work then?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 16:12

>>48
me, me ! pick me please.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-12 21:50

Im not writing the kind of software at work that I want to, so I do that shit at home.

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