C# vs C++

Convince me to learn C++. I already know C# and a small amount of C++ and I half want to learn it but the language seems to be a disorganised mess compared to C#.

I don't like C++, but it's way better than the piece of shit that is C#.

You might want to learn C first.

>>3
You might want to learn B first.

>>3
A.k.a. a small amount of C++.

C# is great if you want pure OOP. Plus, .Net is a pretty damn big library. It makes programming a bit like lego. All the blocks are made for you by some guy in a Taiwanese sweatshop, but you can put them together into anything you want because you're a clever little guy. Really, though, I quite like C#. It's well designed at least. C++ doesn't really have so much a set of features as a pile of them. C++11 has some pretty great additions though, like auto and the ability to initialise vectors with braces.

I tend to use C++ as an improved C. It has an extended standard library which makes a lot of things easier to do without a big performance hit (I suspect the standard containers are more OPTIMIZED than what I'd be likely to produce myself). It also has exceptions (which I don't really use much) and namespaces (which I use a lot). Therefore, I tend to write mostly procedural code with a few objects when I want them. Unless I'm writing something that really benefits from having objects, like a game.

>>4
You might want to learn BCPL first.

Even I wouldn't want to convince my worst enemy to learn C++

>>7
Would you convince Hitler to learn C++?

>>8 Implying he's my enemy

>>9
Oh no, it's the racist homophobic freedom-hating shithead.

>>10
No, you're the racist homosexual freedom-hating jewkike.

>>11
racist
Nope.

homosexual
Wrong again.

freedom-hating
Horribly wrong.

jewkike.
Wrong again.

Fuck off, illogical piece of shit.

>>12
not a jewkike
so you're just a jew?

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be the most contralogical piece of racist gay jewshit ever
try to call anyone else illogical
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>>10 What I can't not hate the true real Jews and also not hate Hitler?

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>tfw a jew jew'd near you

This must be what it feels like after being raped.

>>14
implying

>>14
I hate your retarded shit with every fibre of my being.  FUCK YOU AND DIE YOU FRACTALLY-WRONG IDIOTIC FAGSHIT.

>>15
true real Jews
No real Scotsman fallacy.

>>14,16-17
Go back to /r/technology please

>>19
Sure, after I ever go there in the first place, which will be after you go back there ``shalom''!

>>1
If you learn C++, you can mock 99% of the world using just a subset they don't know.

Objective C. Remember, WWJD (What Would Jobs Do).

C++ is like Linux. It's very effective at stroking your ego yet ultimately pointless. Go on comp.lang.cpp and see what I mean. Somehow the software world got along fine without ``template metaprogramming,'' UB, and 36 hour long compiles. Can't believe I used to like this language.

sepples is pretty awful.

The only reason I know it is because I primarily develop on relatively resource constrained systems for work. I can see learning C++ for certain aspects of game programming as well.

That said, lots of businesses are retarded and use C++ when they should be using something like python or lisp.

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>>25
That's some B^BCODE FAILURE!

>>25
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>>27
You are this mad.

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>failing at BBCode
>2012
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>>25
Fuck off, homophobic racist retard.

>>30
After you die, homosexual racist ashkenazi jew.

>>31
Jokes on you, goy. Ashkenazim have the highest lifespans.

http://nymag.com/news/features/ashkenazi-jews-2011-11/index1.html

>>32
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>>6
.Net is a pretty damn big library. It makes programming a bit like lego.
Nah, it doesn't.  It should, but it doesn't.  There's a great lecture out there about "knit castles" versus "Lego castles" and the truth is that no programming language (or library) successfully makes programming work like Lego.  It's maybe a year or two old now, but you should Google it.

Also, there's a shitload more available, as far as APIs and libraries, for C++ than there is for C#.

>>5
U MENA
A.K.A. Clean and beautiful unlike the fetid pile of shit that is C++