[LISP] Looking for good tutorials.

After reading /prog/ for some months, I decided to find out what all the fuss is about and learn LISP. I'm pretty sure I'm getting ``trolled'' but if it's really as good as some of you say then I absolutely have to try it out.

The problem is, I can't find any good learning resources/tutorials. Would you mind helping me out? How did you learn (LISP)? Should I watch Hal Abelson's SICP lecture videos on youtube or are they outdated? Also, is emacs good for writing LISP?

U MENA HASKAL

>>2
No, I don't ``MENA'' ``HASKAL''. I mean LISP.

you're getting trolled for sure. SICP is crap. Good luck with emacs, it will take you ten years to learn to use that crap.

LISP isn't something you learn, LISP is something you just GET. Like my Jackson 5. What I'm trying to say is, that you, >>1, should stick with today's [b][i]ENTERPRISE QUALITY DYNAMICALLY SCALABLE [o]TURN-KEY MARKET SOLUTIONS[/u][/i][/b].

>>1
Books: SICP, Land of Lisp
Editor: emacs+paredit+rainbowdelimiters
Software: MIT scheme for SICP, SBCL (or whatever CL implementation you want) for Land of Lisp

>>4
Thanks to CUA-mode and the GTK GUI it now has, that is no longer true.

>>7
What a useful invention, a GTK GUI.

AND NOT I AM NOT BEING SARCASTIC! IT THE BEST INVENTION SINCE CIRCUMCISION

I began with Common Lisp. That was probably a mistake, but whatever. I went through Practical Common Lisp, which at first didn't sink in. So I went through it again. YMMV, but if Lisp doesn't click for you at first, don't give up. It's rather foreign at first.

Then I looked through ANSI Common Lisp. It is a good source of exercises, but Graham's writing style may put you off.

Another good book is Norvig's PAIP.

Once you understand the concepts, it's just like anything else. Write, write, and write some more. Don't forget to read code, either.

Some helpful stuff:
http://xach.livejournal.com/278047.html
http://www.bookshelf.jp/texi/onlisp/onlisp.html
http://www.cliki.net/index
http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/
http://emacswiki.org/emacs/ParEdit
http://www.foldr.org/~michaelw/emacs/redshank/

>>1
The sussman abelson lectures should still hold but atleast the ones downloaded from the internet archive are so bad video quality that you cant even understand some lectures entirely.
I dont know if these are the same as the youtube ones.

Emacs is good for writing lisp.

Plus you should learn a dialect of lisp called scheme.
Try looking on schemers.org, dont start out with common lisp, its horrible.

OF CUORSE U MENA DUKE LETO ATRIEDES, HIS FAHTER

OP- there are a lot of free Lisp books on the internet (which you would have found if you werent too stupid to know how to use google), but there is really only one free Lisp book that will teach you how to do something useful with Lisp and that is this:
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-lisp-intro/

>>9
I think Paul Graham is a quite a decent writer, sometimes he is too fanatic about Lisp though, but who isn't? And using both Practical Common Lisp and ANSI Common Lisp seems a bit redundant, my two cent is just go straight to Graham's On Lisp.

>>12
elisp
*pukes*

I'm the original ``Lisp is shit'' guy, Lisp is actually fucking amazing.

>>13
I agree, it is a bit redundant. However, I used ANSI CL's short (and sometimes silly) exercises in between chapters while using PCL - something which PCL lacks for some reason.

Make sure to use CLISP Goy
http://www.clisp.org/impnotes/faq.html#faq-menorah
CLISP has been using the menorah for the logo since the project was first started in the late 1980-ies by Bruno Haible and Michael Stoll. This probably reflects the authors' affection toward the Jewish people, Judaism or the State of Israel (neither of the two original authors is Jewish by birth). You may ask the original authors for details yourself. Both of them are very busy though, so do not expect a prompt reply.
The CLISP developers, both the original creators and the current maintainers, do not subscribe to the mainstream view that blames the Jews for everything from high oil prices and Islamic extremism to El Niño and global warming (or cooling, whatever the looming disaster du jour is).
Moreover, today, when Jews are being pushed out of the American and European academic institutions with various obscene boycott and divestment campaigns, it is crucial for all of us to stand together against the resurgence of Nazism.

>>17
CLISP is slow. In fact all Common Lisp implementations are clunky codebases from the 80s. The best implementations are Steel Bank CL, LispWorks and Allegro CL but none of them really generates what would be considered good assembly code.

>>17
Lol they're probably evangelical Christians, fucking shabbos goyim

>>17
The CLISP developers, both the original creators and the current maintainers, do not subscribe to the mainstream view that blames the Jews for everything from high oil prices and Islamic extremism to El Niño and global warming (or cooling, whatever the looming disaster du jour is).
What's wrong with that, frayer?

>>18
but none of them really generates what would be considered good assembly code.
[citation needed]

but none of them really generates what would be considered good assembly code.^>>18

dubs^{[checking needed]}

OP here. Wow, /prog/ is surprisingly helpful.
I haven't checked out all the recommendations yet but I definitely will.
Thanks, guys!