web design

sup /prog/

I'm getting back into web design after a few years out of the game (tables....tables everywhere)

what's some good reading material for best practices and conventions? seems like all the stuff online is either old or just patently wrong (w3schools)

I've been focusing on code-centric design, as opposed to PSD-centric, but should I be doing PSD?

learn these in the following order:
javascript
php
sql
html/css
ruby/rails

suggested reading material? or just whatever O'Reilly puts out

web design
programming

pick one

WYPMP

OP here again, adding to my last q, all of the websites in my city are shit-terrible tier pre-web0.1 garbage, and I think there's a ripe field here for web-design

I'd like to attract business with HTML5/CSS3 versions of their sites, would it be worth my time to write up a version, PDF it, and send it to them or is that not how things are done?

I know for a fact that the company's offering web-design services in the area are using shit like table navigation, because my old web-design professor would brag about all the company's he's worked for, and then proceed to tell us to use tables for everything

>>3
javascript
http://eloquentjavascript.net/

sql
http://sql.learncodethehardway.org/

ruby
"Eloquent Ruby' or "The Well Grounded Rubyist"

cant recommend anything for php or html/css

>>5-6

please GTFO web faggots.

WYPMP

I don't know about the best way to advertise your business but I hear AJAX-like JS programming and HTML5 is taking off while XML is slowly dieing

yeah, I guess I thought I'd master HTML/CSS first but
>>2
says I should learn js, php and sql first

these are likely not going to be data driven sites, at least that wasn't my first audience. I was thinking medical offices like dentists and optometrists, restaurants, mechanics and such, places that wouldn't necessarily change (or would only be making small specific changes).

what you should do is die in a fire.

WYPMP

>>9
it only takes about a half hour to learn enough html to make a basic web page, when I say learn html/css after all those languages, I mean learn it well

>>9
medical offices like dentists and optometrists
I smell a HIPAA suit a-brewing.

front-end shit: javashit/jquery, ajax, html5, css obviously

ass-end shit: java/c# or ruby/python, with a fucking database, i don't care, pick one, jesus nigger

js+html5+perl::dancer=bliss

Whatever you do, make sure you don't end up with divitis.

Whatever you do, don't turn out like me.

>>1
Webdesign aint that easy anymore. Today you cant just generate simple black-on-white HTML and expect that to work. You have to open flash or or AJAX, then do a complete GUI design with compiz like 3d windows to make your product more attractive.

>>17
Also, modern JS became very much like C/C++. It has static typing and all this OOP shit. So be ready for hardcore enterprise coding with tons of design pattern.

Is the OP who I think it is?
"I'm especially good at factoring" ring a bell?

How do you do this?

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6753/fdfu.png

>>18
also, it averages 2x as fast as c++ and has advanced low-level features

>>14
Amen to that my brother

>>21
also, it averages 2x as fast as c++
lolno