/prog/ - Cheap fast trustable laptop computer

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-06 23:53

It's that time of the month, folks. I feel like buying a replacement laptop, yet x86-grade power consumption and non-free BIOSes are quite a turn-down. Are there any cheap (under 600$), fast (comparable to, say, an Intel T3400), trustable (no binary blobs) laptop (screen size between 12 and 17 inches) computers out there? Availability of 6-cell battery also a requirement.

Probably not.

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-07 0:14

Buy a Lemote Yeelong.

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-07 0:15

>>2
Not very fast, screen size below 12 inch, battery only available in 3-cell format (netbooks are supposed to last very long on battery power), and fairly expensive for a netbook.

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-07 0:16

Non-free BIOS on any general purpose computer are the exception, not the standard. The Lemote Yeelong would be one of the two famous free bios computers (the other being the XO)

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-07 1:35

>>4
XO
Not very fast, screen size much below 12 inch.

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!FBeUS42x4uM+kgp 2012-05-07 4:28

>>4
Thinkpad X60s with Coreboot.

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-07 6:20

>>6
Very interesting. And cheap! And long battery life!

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-07 7:05

X series considered harmful.

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-07 8:19

>>6
Really? That interests me greatly! My next notebook will be a Thinkpad x60!

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-07 11:08

>>9
X60
It has to be an X60s. I don't know to what extent coreboot is supposed on other variations.

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-07 13:10

czech um

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-08 0:37

>>11
nice ones

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-08 16:19

Hey, nice ass!

Name: The Sussman 2012-05-08 21:42

>>13
Hey, that's my face!

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-08 23:37

>>14
Sussman-kun-sama, can I put my penis on it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-08 23:44

If the Sussman gives you head, does it count as fellatio or anal?

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-09 4:56

>>16
Depends which head it is.

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-09 5:03

>>16
Sussman gives car, not head!

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-09 5:28

>>18
You mean cdr.

Name: Anonymous 2012-05-09 6:10

>>19
Sure, if you want to chop your head off then give somebody your body!

Name: bampu pantsu 2012-05-29 4:48

bampu pantsu

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-30 22:26

So, should I get an X60s or wait for the Yeeloong-8133 to be out? Are there any new players on the field? Are there any cool cheap Android tablets with no substantial non-free firmware (the tiny routine that copies the boot image from Flash to RAM and runs it doesn't count)?

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-30 22:38

I'd get the X60 because it's available today then the Yeelong 8133 when it comes out.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-30 22:55

                                                           '

>2012

>being poor

>buying anything but a Macbook Pro

SHIGGITYDIGGITYDOO

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-30 22:58

>>24
Apple
No.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-30 23:00

>>24
Does it have open source firmware?

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-30 23:01

>>26
It has iLife.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-30 23:05

>>27
I don't care.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-30 23:46

>>28
iCare.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-30 23:50

>>22
Are there any cool cheap Android tablets with no substantial non-free firmware
What do you call an Android tablet with FOSS firmware?
A brick.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-31 4:22

>>30
Terrible!

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-31 4:49

>>31
Yeah I concur. The FOSS firmware generally is.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-31 10:38

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Name: Anonymous 2012-08-31 18:13

>>32
At least I can write my own in lieu; if it's a locked-down piece of shit, I'm utterly doomed.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-31 18:24

What about this [ http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1G-Mini2440-S3C2440-ARM9-Board-support-Windows-CE-5-and-6-Linux-2-6-Android-/280930036471?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4168bc2af7 ]? Does it look like I can run it with FOSS firmware only?

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-31 18:41

"It's that time of the month, folks."
I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHEN YOU MENSTRUATE

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-31 21:07

Why do /prog/rider ``faggots'' always talk about laptops and other prebuilts? Desktops are modular and cheaper for the same performance, not to mention they're easier to fix, upgrade, etc. Also, the cooling is much better. Discrete laptop HSFs are terrible!

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-31 21:24

>>36
menstruate my anus

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-31 22:27

>>38
PROPERLY FORMAT MY ANUS

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-31 22:42

Why do you care about a ``free'' BIOS? What about the freedom to have a BIOS not maintained by amateurs?

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-31 22:55

>>37
Do you know about the adage, "different tools for different jobs"? I use my notebook computer as a portable terminal machine suitable for typing documents and code, surfing the web, or any other computer work that doesn't require much power. I have a desktop machine for the very reasons you've stated, I use it mainly for gaming and for high computation work that I do on occasion. I also have a headless server machine that provides my computing services for home and is reachable over the Internet: file/media service, email service, torrents, software builds, personal information database service, gaming server and web proxy.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-31 23:17

>>40
fuck off and die, freedom-hating faggot

Name: faggot 2012-09-01 5:53

Looks like there are three options now:
- Pay $1100 for a Lemote Yeeloong 8133 (unless the price magically changes when they put it on aliexpress, which is possible since their shitty 8089A netbook is listed on their website as being $378, yet the aliexpress listing says $194 -- what the fuck)
- Get a Lenovo X60s (around $150 on eBay), then put coreboot on it.
- Buy a Pandaboard ($170), a Chalkboard Electronics LCD LVDS adaptor + touchscreen LCD panel combo ($135), and a few 5V battery packs ($50) (because I'm too lazy to put together a 18650 controller), and a small keyboard ($15), and make a really ugly netbook for a total of $370. Alternatively, buy a larger 14 inch screen and make a laptop instead for about the same price. But I still don't know whether the Pandaboard boot process requires any evil closed-source bits.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-01 6:14

A Lisp Machine using FPGA would be much cooler. MIPS+Linux are not revolutionary enough and definitely not something uniq (every western kid has a Sony PSP, which is MIPS).

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-01 6:24

>>44
No FOSS FPGA bitstream compilers exist.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-01 7:20

>>45
Time to write one then

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-01 8:49

this server uses non-free hardware

by continuing to post on World4ch, you support non-free software

your ISP uses non-free software

by using the internet, you support non-free software

live in a mud hut if you want total freedom

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-01 13:50

>>43
touchscreen
fuck off back to reddit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-01 14:14

>>48
Because I'd be too lazy to get a touchpad.

>>47
Fuck off and die, idiotic dipshit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-01 18:05

>>47
User freedom is an issue for the hardware that I own. User freedom is an issue for the software that I need to process my computing. I don't own the hardware of W4ch so my own freedom isn't an issue. I don't depend on w4ch's computer system to process my computing.

The issue of user freedom belongs to the owner of the hardware. If Moot owns the W4ch hardware, it's his own freedom that is restricted when he chooses non-free software.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-01 18:11

>>50
I don't depend on w4ch's computer system to process my computing.
There should be no problems if you get the fuck out, I suppose.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-01 18:59

>>51
fuck off, dipshit faggot

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 10:23

Can you take the Chinese-backdoored hardware and run Russian-backdoored Android on it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 10:35

>>52
Write an error message and die, fagshit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 15:01

>>54
b-but I always write an error message when I die..

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 18:36

Lenovo X60s
Fucking hell, it doesn't support x86-64. Fuck! It sure is faster than the netbook I'm typing this on, and probably faster than the Yeeloong 8133.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 19:02

>>56
The Core 2 Duo L7400 is a 64 bits processor. What's the problem?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 23:22

>>57
I don't know where you got that, but all the X60s I find on eBay have the Intel Core Duo L2400, which does not support long mode.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 23:30

>>58
I got that from coreboot's page.
It seems that some X60s do have an L7400: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-62845

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 23:33

>>58
Search "X60s L7400" in ebay.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 23:43

>>60
I get six motherboards and zero laptops.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-02 23:50

>>61
Well that's too bad. What can I say to cheer you up?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-03 0:45

>>62
You could tell me what price Lemote is going to list their new laptop under on aliexpress.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-03 1:45

>>64
I don't know and I'm not very optimistic. You'll end up paying too much and you will probably be disappointed by the performances.
But as I understood you're willing to make some sacrifices...

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-03 2:30

>>64
Sacrifices I'm willing to make:
- Lower performance (at least as much as an Atom N455)
- Higher price (up to $700)

What I want in return:
- Source code for firmware (for paranoid security auditing)
- Decent battery life
- Cool MIPS64 CPU to play with and to port my shitty software to