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Name: Anonymous 2012-01-16 22:26

Suppose I want to acquire some IEEE Standard Documents without paying for them.

IK there is no easy way, but considering that there might be some secluded release group on EFnet. Assuming it exists I might be willing to go into all the troubles with tunneled a bnc and stuff.

What are my chances to get V& and are the people I would have to get in touch with exposing themselves to it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-16 23:09

u gun get fukk in da butt in prison, lol xDDD

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-16 23:17

I used to want to acquire some IEEE Standard Documents without paying for them, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-16 23:31

>>1
Suppose I want to acquire some IEEE Standard Documents without paying for them.
Jews wont allow you. They're making money from these papers.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 0:01

>>1
Hey I want that too! What's the chan on EFnet?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 0:49

>>1
Why? If you're not a professional, you don't need it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 0:51

As a sign of good will, you can obtain a few papers yourself (wont be hard if you're an insider) and put them on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet or some other place, where it'll be hard to take them down.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 0:53

>>6
For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_754-1985 could be relevant to all /prog/rammers, "professional" or not.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 0:55

>>8
What's wrong with the wikipedia page?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 0:58

>>9
Do you prefer to read original paper or comments on it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 0:59

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/guesthome.jsp
Some university libraries have hardcopy IEEE standards and/or IEEE Xplore available for free.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 1:03

>>11
available for free.
University education isn't free.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 1:05

>>11
Some university libraries have hardcopy IEEE standards
Can somebody scan them and publish on some ftp?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 1:28

>>12
You don't have to be a student to go in the library.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 1:39

>>14
Only registered students have access to university library.

http://www.accesseducationindia.com/cost-of-education.html
It differs from university to university ranging from public cost $ 5000 a year to $ 30000 per annum for private institutes.

Doubt anyone wish to pay $5000 for access to a library.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 1:39

>>14
which library has access to IEEE?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 1:40

>>12
What kind of backwards country do you live in? In norway, you get paid to study at universities. And yes we do have the IEEE standards but they span an entire shelf of binders so there's no way in hell I'll be scanning them all.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 1:44

>>17
USA, Canada, Australia and all third-world "developing" banana countries - all have non-free education.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 1:46

>>17
we do have the IEEE standards but they span an entire shelf of binders so there's no way in hell I'll be scanning them all.
If each student scans at least one stanard, it could be done in a week.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 1:48

>>19
The implication being it takes a week to scan one.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 1:59

>>20
It takes a week to organize students.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 2:06

You're just a cheap dick. This is a professional's publication intended solely for professionals (electrical engineer) who would always have the financing to buy what they need. Since you are not a professional, you should not have access to it; it's that simple.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 2:16

>>22
why? justify.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 2:22

>>23
Only professionals would need the level of information detailed in it. I am a trained EE and I have seen IEEE standards during my time in studies. I don't currently work as an EE but for all the hobby hacking I've done in probing my gadgets, Wikipedia always had enough information for me to facilitate my work.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 2:37

>>22
This is a professional's publication intended solely for professionals
Then there is nothing wrong in making them available for general public.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 2:42

>>24
Only professionals would need the level of information detailed in it.
I want to build an IEEE_754-1985 FPU emulator. How do I do that without the "level of information detailed in it"?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 2:43

>>24
Wikipedia always had enough information for me to facilitate my work.
Do you prefer to read original paper or comments on it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 2:47

FREE IEEE

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 2:49

>>26
Hack into an university network.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 3:00

>>25
Yes, I agree it's not wrong. However, the authors of that publication do not want that information in the general public as is their right under the Berne convention inspired copyright law. I'd like it in the public but that's the rules; it's your own responsibility to play within the rules or lobby to get the rules changed.

>>26
Ok, that is professional level knowledge (even if you are a hobbyist). While I wish you well in that endeavour, you'll have to either pay for that access or ask someone else for that access (which is exactly what you're doing here). You should've originally stated which standard you're after and for which purpose you intend to use it.

>>27
I would prefer the original paper as I often had to ask EE friends who had intimate understanding of the work I did. The wikipedia articles were good enough in pointing me to which questions I would need to ask them.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 3:10

>>30
the authors of that publication do not want that information in the general public as is their right under the Berne convention inspired copyright law.
Only jews care about some laws protecting jews. If you have no copyrighted property of your own, then you have no need for such a talmudic law. And dont forget, that IEEE is a USA based corporation - i.e. IEEE is your economic enemy, if you live somewhere in China, India, Latino, Eastern Europe, or Islamic country.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 3:14

>>33
nice dubs bro

I hope you have a great day

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 3:37

Most authors don't even get paid much if at all by paywalls. Paywalls impede scientific progress, by preventing important information from being (easily) publicly accessible. Some even impede it by forcing authors to not upload papers on their own sites or force them to only upload preprints or earlier versions.

Name: >>33 2012-01-17 3:40

It also reminds me of pyramid schemes: they offer to host your data (your research papers) then they charge you (some university) to access the data (maybe for less). Good thing some of them figured it out and there are open alternatives, but there's still a lot of knowledge hidden behind paywalls.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 4:02

>>31
>Only jews care about some laws protecting jews. If you have no copyrighted property of your own, then you have no need for such a talmudic law.
Cool true scotsman bro. Tell me another cool story this time involving even more Jews.
IEEE is your economic enemy, if you live somewhere in China, India, Latino, Eastern Europe, or Islamic country.
Oh there you go, even more cool stories.

>>33
Yes, the purpose of paywalls is to control scientific progress for a fee. It really depends upon your purposes: do you want money for publishing your knowledge or is it more important to gift humanity with some quality (though esoteric) knowledge?

>>34
That isn't what a pyramid scheme is, just letting you know.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 5:07

>>35
Your answer shows that you're out of viable arguments. I will interpret it as your surrender.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 5:09

>>33>>34
Standard Documents aren't research papers. They're more like program code or blueprints.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 5:18

Yes, the purpose of paywalls is to control scientific progress for a fee. It really depends upon your purposes: do you want money for publishing your knowledge or is it more important to gift humanity with some quality (though esoteric) knowledge?
Basically, a paper publishing company is a some fat jew (most publishing compaines are owned by jews), who somehow got the right to decide what is important for goyim. And, of course, such publishers can ban research based on political or ethnical reason ("you're a goy-antisemite and we hate you").

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 5:23

>>38
most publishing compaines are owned by jews
For example, Springer Verlag...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertelsmann
Hartmut Ostrowski, Chairman & CEO
OstrowsKI? Kike.

Dr. Thomas Rabe, Chief Financial Officer
Rabe? Rabbi.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-17 5:26

>>39
Also,
Bertelsmann is not publicly listed and is majority owned (77.4%) by the Bertelsmann Foundation, a non-profit organisation and political think tank set up by the Mohn family
Jewish family. Like Rothschilds.
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