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Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 14:28

http://i.imgur.com/XVMgl.png

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 14:36

wow

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 14:41

EPIC OP XD

Name: VIPPER 2011-09-29 14:41

sage

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 14:45

so why is LISP the most powerful?

/prog/ should do something similar:

1. Is GC shit?

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 14:48

OH
MY
DOG

i came

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 14:53

I call bullshit -- I have an ATI card and no proprietary filth is required to run 3d on it.

Name: GC is great 2011-09-29 14:55

Lisp is shit.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 14:58

Dear Guido van Rossum.


1. What is your stance on garbage collection?

2. Did you mean Haskell?

3. Have you read your SICP today?

4. Which Touhou would you like to forcibly indent, thread over?

5. What do you think about finitism?

Name: VIPPER 2011-09-29 14:59

>>8
THE JEWISH ANAL RAPE OF DOOM AWAITS.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 15:02

Will smoking cannabis in 24 hour intervals aid my programming abilities?

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 15:03

1. How do you pronounce "cdr"?
2. Is GC shit?
3. Can you prove there are more people in a given anonymous message board than me, you, and your friend Gerry Sussman?
4. Is BBCode free software?
5. What do you think about Slackware?
6. Do you think Internet message boards are unscientific and ultimately destructive?

More to come...

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 15:04

Is he actually advocating the use of nVidia cards using nouveau firmware and driver?

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 15:07

>>9
1. I prefer reference counting -- machines today surely have enough cache memory to store the counters, and it's not like Python's bloated runtime, module system and loading of class members won't completely flush the cache, several times. Reference cycwhat? Next question please.

2. No. Haskell is a functional programming language, therefore I don't understand it even at a basic level.

3. Obviously not, I stopped reading it at the first occurrence of the word lambda. To be honest, I still don't know how Python's lambda actually works (I was drunk one night and I accepted a shady patch from some asshole; ever since then, I've been unable to remove it due to hordes of faggots threatening to stop using the language, wtf?!).

4. What's a Touhou?

5. I think it's a great idea. Computers have limited resources and we can't afford mathematicians using "infinite lists" or things like that. Hell, even the universe has a finite amount of atoms.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 15:08

>>13
see
>>7

Apparently the moron who wrote the fake email response didn't bother much with facts.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 15:13

Guy has been spamming this on /g/ for days now. If you have ever emailed rms, you can tell this isn't him.

The OP also refused to post the full email header and it wasn't signed.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 15:16

Fucking love RMS.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 15:19

>>14
OMG ITS GUIDO VAN ROSSUM!

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 15:20

>>17,18
Back to the image boards, please!

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 15:49

>>16
this guy is right. I emailed rms once and it had none of that crap at the bottom (FSF address &c). I also a really strange auto-reply-bot message beforehand.


I am not on vacation, but I am at the end of a long time delay. I am
located somewhere on Earth, but as far as responding to email is concerned,
I appear to be well outside the solar system.
 
After your message arrives at gnu.org, I will collect it in my next batch of
incoming mail, some time within the following 24 hours. I will spend much of
the following day reading that batch of mail and will come across your
message at some point. If I write a response immediately, it will go out in
the next outgoing batch--typically around 24 hours after I collected your
message, but occasionally sooner or later than that. Please expect a minimum
delay of between 24 and 48 hours in receiving a response to your mail to me.
 
If your message is hard to understand or responding takes real work,
the response could take longer.
 
So please wait 48 hours after sending a message before you resend it,
remind me about it, or ask if I have received it. If it has been less
than 48 hours, the absence of a response from me only means you have not
given me time to answer.
 
If you are having a conversation with me, please keep in mind that each
message you receive from me is a response to the mail you sent 24 to 48 hours
earlier, and when writing it, I probably had not yet downloaded your later
mail.
 
 
If you are in big hurry to speak with me, and one day's delay would be
a serious problem, you can ask my FSF assistant to phone me. Send mail to
<rms-assist@fsf.org> saying what you would like to talk with me about,
and giving your telephone number. You can also call the Free Software
Foundation office at 617-542-5942 (weekday Boston business hours) and
ask them to phone me on your behalf. If it's really important, try both!
 
An intermediate measure is to email me your phone number and ask me
to phone you.
 
But if there isn't enough hurry to warrant phoning me, please don't bother
the FSF people. The mail you already sent me will reach me before any mail
they could send me now on your behalf. I will respond as soon as I can.
 
If you do not wish to receive this message ever again, please send a message
to rms-autoreply-control@gnu.org with the subject "OFF".
Otherwise, you might receive a reply like this one up to once a month.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 16:09

>>7,13
http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/image_view_fullscreen
Quite idiotic TBH since I'd say ATI has always been more friendly than nVidia (releasing specs and helping the OSS driver team so on, while the only thing nV does is releasing binary blobs).

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 16:09

>>7,13
http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/image_view_fullscreen
Quite idiotic TBH since I'd say ATI has always been more friendly than nVidia (releasing specs and helping the OSS driver team so on, while the only thing nV does is releasing binary blobs).

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 16:10

>>7,13
http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/image_view_fullscreen
Quite idiotic TBH since I'd say ATI has always been more friendly than nVidia (releasing specs and helping the OSS driver team so on, while the only thing nV does is releasing binary blobs).

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 16:11

>>7,13
http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/image_view_fullscreen
Quite idiotic TBH since I'd say ATI has always been more friendly than nVidia (releasing specs and helping the OSS driver team so on, while the only thing nV does is releasing binary blobs).

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 16:13

>>7,13
http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/image_view_fullscreen
Quite idiotic TBH since I'd say ATI has always been more friendly than nVidia (releasing specs and helping the OSS driver team so on, while the only thing nV does is releasing binary blobs).

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 16:19

>>7,13
http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/image_view_fullscreen
Quite idiotic TBH since I'd say ATI has always been more friendly than nVidia (releasing specs and helping the OSS driver team so on, while the only thing nV does is releasing binary blobs).

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 16:22

>>7,13
http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/image_view_fullscreen
Quite idiotic TBH since I'd say ATI has always been more friendly than nVidia (releasing specs and helping the OSS driver team so on, while the only thing nV does is releasing binary blobs).

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 16:34

>>12
I think that Slackware has a few non-free elements, but he should like it . After all, it's not only the oldest Linux distribution, but the only one entirely written in LISP.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 16:49

Oh god /prog/ is broken. The main page doesn't update and the post confirmation screen is blank

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 16:51

>>7,13
http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/image_view_fullscreen
Quite idiotic TBH since I'd say ATI has always been more friendly than nVidia (releasing specs and helping the OSS driver team so on, while the only thing nV does is releasing binary blobs).

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 17:13

>>7,13
http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/image_view_fullscreen
Quite idiotic TBH since I'd say ATI has always been more friendly than nVidia (releasing specs and helping the OSS driver team so on, while the only thing nV does is releasing binary blobs).

Name: !L33tUKZj5I 2011-09-29 17:16

>>7,15
I call bullshit -- I have an ATI card and no proprietary filth is required to run 3d on it.
RMS is no fan of ATI. Have you not seen the pictures of him from a few months back protesting outside their headquarters with that "Enemy of your freedom" sign? I think it's plausible he would reply in this manner.

>>16
Someone has been taking the picture and spammin it. I saw the original thread, and headers were supplied. They checked out. Yes, I know that is easy to fake, but I bet the guy didn't expect anyone to call him on it, and he supplied them remarkably quickly.

>>20
this guy is right. I emailed rms once and it had none of that crap at the bottom (FSF address &c). I also a really strange auto-reply-bot message beforehand.

Again, I saw the original thread, and he posted that automated reply as well, and showed a screencap of his inbox with it. Apparently he had posted that a few days earlier, before RMS actually replied, as some people in the thread recalled waiting for the answer. Yes, I know that could be him same-personing but whatever Also, as for the stuff at the bottom...I can believe RMS could possibly change his sig.

Plus, the comment about not using Intel or AMD sounds like him, he uses some weird open spec laptop.

Also, if you read about his answer to the TOR question, he has many similar responses about that issue on his website.

In short, I think it's plausible that it could actually have been him, and if not, it's exactly what he would say anyway.

Name: !L33tUKZj5I 2011-09-29 17:16

>>7,15
I call bullshit -- I have an ATI card and no proprietary filth is required to run 3d on it.
RMS is no fan of ATI. Have you not seen the pictures of him from a few months back protesting outside their headquarters with that "Enemy of your freedom" sign? I think it's plausible he would reply in this manner.

>>16
Someone has been taking the picture and spammin it. I saw the original thread, and headers were supplied. They checked out. Yes, I know that is easy to fake, but I bet the guy didn't expect anyone to call him on it, and he supplied them remarkably quickly.

>>20
this guy is right. I emailed rms once and it had none of that crap at the bottom (FSF address &c). I also a really strange auto-reply-bot message beforehand.

Again, I saw the original thread, and he posted that automated reply as well, and showed a screencap of his inbox with it. Apparently he had posted that a few days earlier, before RMS actually replied, as some people in the thread recalled waiting for the answer. Yes, I know that could be him same-personing but whatever Also, as for the stuff at the bottom...I can believe RMS could possibly change his sig.

Plus, the comment about not using Intel or AMD sounds like him, he uses some weird open spec laptop.

Also, if you read about his answer to the TOR question, he has many similar responses about that issue on his website.

In short, I think it's plausible that it could actually have been him, and if not, it's exactly what he would say anyway.

Name: !L33tUKZj5I 2011-09-29 17:19

>>7,15
I call bullshit -- I have an ATI card and no proprietary filth is required to run 3d on it.
RMS is no fan of ATI. Have you not seen the pictures of him from a few months back protesting outside their headquarters with that "Enemy of your freedom" sign? I think it's plausible he would reply in this manner.

>>16
Someone has been taking the picture and spammin it. I saw the original thread, and headers were supplied. They checked out. Yes, I know that is easy to fake, but I bet the guy didn't expect anyone to call him on it, and he supplied them remarkably quickly.

>>20
this guy is right. I emailed rms once and it had none of that crap at the bottom (FSF address &c). I also a really strange auto-reply-bot message beforehand.

Again, I saw the original thread, and he posted that automated reply as well, and showed a screencap of his inbox with it. Apparently he had posted that a few days earlier, before RMS actually replied, as some people in the thread recalled waiting for the answer. Yes, I know that could be him same-personing but whatever Also, as for the stuff at the bottom...I can believe RMS could possibly change his sig.

Plus, the comment about not using Intel or AMD sounds like him, he uses some weird open spec laptop.

Also, if you read about his answer to the TOR question, he has many similar responses about that issue on his website.

In short, I think it's plausible that it could actually have been him, and if not, it's exactly what he would say anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 17:23

>>7,13
http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/image_view_fullscreen
Quite idiotic TBH since I'd say ATI has always been more friendly than nVidia (releasing specs and helping the OSS driver team so on, while the only thing nV does is releasing binary blobs).

Name: !L33tUKZj5I 2011-09-29 17:33

>>7,15
I call bullshit -- I have an ATI card and no proprietary filth is required to run 3d on it.
RMS is no fan of ATI. Have you not seen the pictures of him from a few months back protesting outside their headquarters with that "Enemy of your freedom" sign? I think it's plausible he would reply in this manner.

>>16
Someone has been taking the picture and spammin it. I saw the original thread, and headers were supplied. They checked out. Yes, I know that is easy to fake, but I bet the guy didn't expect anyone to call him on it, and he supplied them remarkably quickly.

>>20
this guy is right. I emailed rms once and it had none of that crap at the bottom (FSF address &c). I also a really strange auto-reply-bot message beforehand.

Again, I saw the original thread, and he posted that automated reply as well, and showed a screencap of his inbox with it. Apparently he had posted that a few days earlier, before RMS actually replied, as some people in the thread recalled waiting for the answer. Yes, I know that could be him same-personing but whatever Also, as for the stuff at the bottom...I can believe RMS could possibly change his sig.

Plus, the comment about not using Intel or AMD sounds like him, he uses some weird open spec laptop.

Also, if you read about his answer to the TOR question, he has many similar responses about that issue on his website.

In short, I think it's plausible that it could actually have been him, and if not, it's exactly what he would say anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 17:34

>>7,13
http://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg/image_view_fullscreen
Quite idiotic TBH since I'd say ATI has always been more friendly than nVidia (releasing specs and helping the OSS driver team so on, while the only thing nV does is releasing binary blobs).

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 17:41

Oh, shut up!

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 18:22

Oh god damn it. world4ch breaks (surprise surprise) and now /prog/ is almost unreadable.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 19:09

>>39
@astrange_e on twitter, MVB on SynIRC and Rizon.

Name: !L33tUKZj5I 2011-09-29 19:39

Shit, sorry guys. Kept checking the main page and it wasn't updating.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 20:07

>>1-41
Back to /g/, please!

Name: VIPPER 2011-09-29 20:31

Is it fixed yet?

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 20:48

The issue only seems to affect /prog/...

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 21:20

AAAAAAAAAA

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 21:20

AAAAAAAAAA

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 21:22

I AM THE MOST FUCKING NGGER MATURE

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 21:22

Fffffffffffffuuuuuuuuujuuu

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 22:23

fix prog

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 22:24

>>44
check out le lounge

Name: sage 2011-09-29 22:34

sage

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-29 23:05

>>20
Stallman should employ ghost writers or something.

Name: sage 2011-09-30 0:00

sage

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 1:22

So is prog fixed now....

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 1:22

It would appear so.

Fix /lounge/ too, or you dishonour your famiry!

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 2:17

I find it curious that the longest answer is related to pedophilia.

Or maybe not, seeing how the email is likely fake.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 2:19

>>56
The fake was done by a pedophile, cuz only pedophiles care about children.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 2:52

>>21-27,30-34
Okay so then why's RMS hatin' on ATI more than on nVidia?  It doesn't make any sense.  The only thing nVidia has ever done for the FOSS community is not suing the fuck out of the nouveau guys under some lame/shit pretext.

>>32-34
He has a Yeelong netbook, which comes with a full "smug FOSS weenie" license. Seriously, though, I'd love one myself just so I could play around with ``MIPS64'' not inside QEMU nor using JTAG (and yes, so that I can experience the pleasure of being free inside). Too bad it's expensive impossible to find AS FUCK!

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 4:07

>>36
Can you supply the original /g/ thread from here please? http://archive.installgentoo.net/cgi-board.pl/g/

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 6:30

>>58
This was in the past when ATI was not part of AMD. I think RMS is not up to date with the current goodwill of AMD/ATI.

http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/rms-ati-protest.html

Taken from WP Richard Stallman
Protesting against proprietary software in April 2006, Stallman held a "Don't buy from ATI, enemy of your freedom" placard at a speech by an ATI representative in the building where Stallman works, resulting in the police being called.[51] ATI has since merged with AMD Corporation and has taken steps to make their hardware documentation available for use by the free software community.[52]

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 7:51

includes headers and shit

http://archive.installgentoo.net/cgi-board.pl/g/thread/20246804#p20247405

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 11:12

Wait a minute, Sussman visited /prog/ and I didn't know about this?

Where's the thread?

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 11:17

>>62
Fuck off,``faggot".

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 12:26

>>61
includes headers and shit
No it doesn't.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 13:05

Post a programming related topic on /prog/
``Back to /g/ please!''
Post a /g/ related topic on /prog/
64 replies.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 13:09

>>65
`>Misusing the quote feature
Back to /g/ please!

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 13:12

>>1-64,66

Back to /g/, please !

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 13:48

>>67
sup, >>65

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 20:33

Damn it, guy has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
Gentoo
contains nonfree software
Lost it there. Also recommending nvidia over ati citing freedom when it is known that nvidia, unlike ati, renders 3d only with proprietary drivers.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 20:46

>>69
Well nouveau does support Gallium3D, but it's still early days.

As for Gentoo, well, it's just NOT FREE ENOUGH:
http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#Gentoo

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 20:52

>>69
Go back to /g/ if all you care about is 3d acceleration. It's not like normal desktop stuff uses it. Only your goofy ass vidja gamen uses 3d accel. and we don't like your kind 'round these here parts, son.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 21:04

>>71
Stop projecting; some of us enjoy playing games.


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"An endless stream of snakes pour forth!"

MOTHERFUCKERASDFJGKLJL

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 21:05

>>72
The get a console [b]``faggot''[/ib]

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 21:06

``faggot'' rather

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 21:11

>>73
I have a console--it's what I'm playing NetHack on.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 22:09

>>14

fuck off, ``faggot''.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-30 23:20

>>76
Did you just flip off one of the < 10 posts which weren't shit in this thread?

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-01 2:24

It sure is /g/ in here.

Name: Richard Stallman 2011-10-01 3:14

>>78
I tried reading that page, but only saw inane comments.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-01 5:30

>>79
Back to /g/, please!

Name: Richard Stallman 2011-10-01 5:37

>>80
I tried reading that page, but only saw inane comments.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-01 5:44

Trivial Solutions is for profit (in theory) and LoseThos is not GPL.

Name: Anonymous 2011-10-01 5:44

LoseThos source code is not ASCII--it can have graphics.
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