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GC is shit

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-07 9:18

discuss

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 14:23

>>40
And accidentally freeing memory that is still needed somewhere. But besides this and off-by-one errors and such there's no way a competent programmer could cause segmentation faults with manual memory management.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 14:26

>>37
lambda person

ITWABT!

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 14:35

>>41
What you are describing is incompetence. Competent programmer is disciplined enough to manage memory manually and safely.

Java and Lisp programmers, for example, are almost always incompetent.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 14:47

>>43
Why can't there be a single post on /prog/ that isn't either a lame attempt at trolling or just plain retarded?

Could anyone recommend another forum?

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 14:51

>>40
My point is that GC will not protect one from off-by-one errors.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 15:07

>>44
Try reddit or hackernews

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 15:14

>>46
Correct.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 15:27

>>46
I guess I wanted an r/programming with less Python vs. Ruby bickering than Reddit, something in between the current subreddit and Lambda the Ultimate like /prog/was once, it seems. Maybe it's just a matter of signal to noise ratio.

On that same vein, Hacker News mostly produces high-brow sounding noise. The opinions which you find there are rarely more informed than Reddit's, lacking the contributions of actual academics and experts. It's mostly a bunch of over-serious pseudo-nerds in their twenties who want to sound like adults.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 15:46

>>48
It's mostly a bunch of over-serious pseudo-nerds in their twenties who want to sound like adults.
That's the Internet, retard.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 16:16

>>48
Your only chance to find such a place is to go back in time.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 16:18

>>49
But it's stronger on Hacker News, you shit posting faggot fucker.

Go eat Paul Graham's shit and die.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 16:59

>>51
u be mad nao. clam down b4 u burst, faggot

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 19:39

>>51 is a huge fag

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 19:43

>>52
>>53
ur fagz lol go suk dik for enterprise fagstroms

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 20:03

>>48
You're really not going to find that anywhere anymore, sadly. I would suggest places to you, but this board is too infested with low signal noise for me to tell you publicly.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 20:05

Also, check 'em.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 20:14

>>55
please tell me, i need some new places to shit up

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 20:15

>>57
boards.4chan.org/b/

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 20:19

>>58
already shat it up, are you blind or something?

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 20:38

>>59
Ooooh, getting personal.

I just saw that it bothered you. Didn't expect that. But do tell me what I'm missing. I already know that you have been here for long, longer than myself. Not that it would matter.

I think I recall some guy with your writing style some months back saying that he was trying to shitpost /prog/ into catharsis. Well, obviously that didn't work.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 20:58

manual memory management increases complexity, and you blubbing assholes don't even see how.

Having some form of automatic memory management makes it so there is absolutely 0 reason not to share resources. There's no overhead whatsoever to doing things that are "bad design" in C++, and no risks either. The secret is that it's not "bad design." It's just a new technique you can do without fear of OH GOD THE MANUAL REFERENCE COUNTING SYSTEM I MADE CAN'T HANDLE CYCLES AND AH FUCK IT.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-08 23:52

All implementations of GC are slow as hell.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 5:38

RAII (Resource Acquisition Is Initialization) makes manual memory management safe and easy.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 7:28

>>60
I created this thread and it seems to be going pretty well.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 7:47

OP here
>>64 is lying

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 7:55

Check my dubz! It's also dubz both in base 21 and 32, ha ha ha oh my!

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 8:06

>>66
Quintessence of autism.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 8:18

I think we reached the consensus that GC is shit except when there are cyclical references, which are a sign of bad design.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 8:44

unique_ptr is the ultimate solution

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 9:07

FUCKING GAMECUBE

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 9:10

>>70
U wot m8?

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 9:15

>>68
Not really. GC is da shit except when object lifetime can reliably be determined in advance, in which case you should use manual memory management unless you want to receive my five dollar footlong up your greasy anus.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 9:21

Guys, guys, listen, guys!

66 is dubz in bases 10 (which itself is dubz in base 4), 21 (which itself is dubz in base 6 and tripz in base 4), and 32 (which itself is dubz in bases 7 (which itself is tripz in base 2) and 15 (which itself is dubz in base 4 and quadz in base 2))!

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 10:46

>>73
You just invented the science of Dubz Analysis. Congratulations, y'oure part of history now.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 12:12

You might be surprised but math autists have an entire system of "special numbers" and "sequences" of which dubz is merely a speck in the number line.
reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Integer_sequences

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 12:20

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 12:21

>>75
They haven't added this discovery of "Dubz Cardinals" so its incomplete.

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 12:25

The Dubz Cardinals - sounds like a great band name for a retro rock band

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 12:37

Name: Anonymous 2011-09-09 12:42

>>79
Oh, thats almost like the dubz cardinals but they haven't discovered them..yet.

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