Thought you guys might like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nii1n8PYLrc

It's Guy Steele and Richard Gabriel commenting on 50 languages.

bunch of old fogies rambling on.  nothing to see here.  also fuck those slideshows with soft music.

Fuck this shit. This is everything that's wrong with /prog/. This isn't a forum about programming, it's a forum where faggots read the first chapter of a CS 101 book and think they're qualified to argue about paradigms. Guy Steele has been stroking his dick about Lisp and making shots at C since either had existed, and the end of the day, nothing is built on Lips and everything is built on C. It's because language design experts don't determine the future, programmers do. So who gives a fuck what the former has to say? Not the latter. Get the fuck off our /prog/. HACK THE PLANET

>>3
If worse is better, you're the best person I've ever met.

I'm not clear on how this relates to programming.  I'm certain this thread will segue into a programming related discussion at any moment.

>>3
implying programming as an industry isn't in a terrible, terrible state

>>3
I LOVE YOU ^{and your post! I read it 5 times!!! Keep posting!}

>>6
It's not. It's awesome. It's fun and lucrative. My work days fly by and I can't wait to pick it up again in the morning. A programmer can getting a job doing whatever kind of programming they like as long as they build up some experience in that area. This is extremely easy through the open source community. If you're stuck in some hellhole writing Visual Basic, that's your fucking problem for being an unambitious code-monkey. It has nothing to do with the industry. Though somehow I get the feeling that you're not even employed. So go start the second chapter of SICP, faggot, and then come back with your worthless opinion. You're not a hacker, you're a hack. Fuck you.

>>8
How do I get into Open Source community from a corporate hellhole where I am spending my time replying to idiots in mail or arguing with PHB's, instead of writing code?

>>9
Nights and weekends, bro, nights and weekends.

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>>3
<-- that's cool and all, but check my doubles over there

>>9
You will reply to idiots in mails in open source projects as well. The Sourceforge tracker system in particular is my personal nightmare.