Ive been really interested in learning how to program and i see all this talk about lisp. But its all in dos mode. Is there a way to do lisp with a gui? Cuz i really wanna do programming and i dont like dos.
Thanks
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Anonymous2011-06-29 4:55
OpenGL.
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John2011-06-29 4:57
>>2
Whats opengl? Thats the graphics thing for linux, right?
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John2011-06-29 4:58
PS I am not allowed to install linux on this computer. Its a shared family computer. My dad said Im not even allowed to use LiveCDs. So if theres a windows way to do this it would be very much appreciated.
There are no GUIs for TEH LITHPu(^__^) because LITHP sucks
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John2011-06-29 5:04
>>6
Well if it sucks why does everyone here love it so much? I mean seriously.
I want to make a few things in lisp LIKE a youtube hacker and facebook hacker and maybe even a video game. It cant be that hard guys. Im just asking if there is a version of lisp that uses a GUI instead of typing anything into notepad.
thanks
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Anonymous2011-06-29 5:09
>>4
What about using a virtual desktop environment like VirtualBox?
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John2011-06-29 5:14
>>8
how much is that cost? My dad might let me do that
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Anonymous2011-06-29 5:18
>>9
You should use Google to figure out what it actually is (and then you would discover that it's free).
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John2011-06-29 5:21
>>10
Ok. So its like a virtual computer? Sounds pretty cool.. i'll be able to use lisp more in that and install a Linux of my own. But what version of linux do i use? and how do i use lisp with a gui?
thanks for the help
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Anonymous2011-06-29 5:33
>>11
You're misinformed. We are held together only by a shared disgust for all the alternatives.
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Anonymous2011-06-29 6:47
>>7
I wouldn't call the few disgusting communist nerds at /proggles~/ "all"
Emacs (+SLIME/...) is a "GUI" (not the right term, but fits your definition).
You can also use OpenGL, X and some other libraries if you want to make applications with visual interfaces.
The actual implementations are of course CLI, but so are most compilers.
There's also OpenGenera if you want an integrated environment like the Smalltalk ones with fancy interfaces, but given that you seem to be a kid who doesn't even know how to use a virtual machine, I'm not going to recommend it to you as the setup isn't trivial (not that setting up Emacs, various plugins and a few Lisp implementations on a Windows machine is much easier(or harder)). Setting them up on a *nix is a bit easier, but the OS is not too relevant except when dealing with unportable code.
google and download:
-ntemacs
-windows sdk(needed by ->)
-ecl
-eql(embedded qt lisp)(will also help you with slime).
Bother the appropriate mailing lists. IHIHBT
hey, i tried out ubuntu 11.04 in virtual box. it got a while but it works! im gonna try out emacs later andread the sicp some more. just wondering but how long does it take to learn the sicp? its been giving me a headache.
#17, i'm not a troll. just because im barely 18 (18 yes) and a bit computer dumb does not mean that im a troll. i still know more than the other kids at my school... i actually once made goatse the background on a teacher computer. haha. and i guessed a password, and i sent all of the teachers an email saying ``im gay lol''. i also know how to use irc and the secret 4chan boards so please stop making fun of me. im just trying to learn.
thank you #15. i'll try looking at that. im not a kid but you seem to be right about the rest.
>>21
Whenever I see a post like that, I first feel bad for living in the same world as its author, but then I smile as I realize that the latter will never reproduce and pass on its teachings of cretinism to anyone else.
>>4
Wow your father is a faggot. Your mother cheated to produce you.
Ask dad when's the next "format" coming so you have some time to write your shit before his computer gets overloaded with malware and system tray shit and needs to be "formatted" again.
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John2011-09-16 19:10
>>24
My dad does not format the computers, he has work stuff on it. And thank you for the link.
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Anonymous2011-09-16 19:22
>>25
Tell him it's unprofessional to be a Microsoft faggot and lame to work for a Microsoft shop, and build a PC yourself (out of anything you can scavenge, or maybe buy one) so you can get a decent, serious operating system on it.
About Racket: Racket is Scheme "with stuff". It conforms to various Scheme standards, plus its own extensions, and comes with a large, "batteries included" standard library that's good for a lot of things from web applications to GUIs, even OpenGL. It's powerful while maintaining the cleanliness and spiritual peace of Scheme, and you may achieve Satori with it.
It comes with Dr. Racket, a complete GUI for learning, editing and debugging Racket/Scheme stuff. You can bytecode compile your programs to the Racket virtual machine bytecode (even wrap them as system executables). The Racket VM is an extremely well performer, despite how advanced and dynamic the language is. A program written in Racket taking advantage of FP without doing something special can vastly outperform anything you could do in CPython, and even outperform naïve C implementations.