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Does it matter which language you use?

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 10:52

Yes, but don't expect miracles. Some people seem to believe that a programming language can or at least should solve most of their problems with system building. They are condemned to search forever for the perfect programming language and become repeatedly disappointed. Others dismiss programming languages as unimportant "implementation details" and put their money into development processes and design methods. They are condemned to program in COBOL, C, and proprietary design languages forever. A good language - such as C++ - can do a lot for a designer and a programmer, as long as its strengths and limitations are clearly understood and respected.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 11:24

Learn Lisp.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 11:27

Yes, but don't expect miracles. Some people seem to believe that a programming language can or at least should solve most of their problems with system building. They are condemned to search forever for the perfect programming language and become repeatedly disappointed. Others dismiss programming languages as unimportant "implementation details" and put their money into development processes and design methods. They are condemned to program in COBOL, C, and proprietary design languages forever. A good language - such as Brainfuck - can do a lot for a designer and a programmer, as long as its strengths and limitations are clearly understood and respected.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 11:28

>>2
also, fuck off lithpfag

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 11:50

Read SICP, learn Lisp. Problem solved.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 12:17

>>5
Fuck off, die faggot. Problem solve.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 12:33

>>6
Go back to /b/, never come back. Problem solv.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 12:41

>>7
Fuck off and die you cock sucking faggot. Problem sol.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 12:52

>>8
Go back to /b/ and never come back. Problem so.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 12:57

Lectu mihi mars, faggots. Problems?

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 13:02

>>9
Fuck off and die you cock sucking faggot. Problem s.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 13:33

>>11
Indeed, if I fucked off and died, there would be problems.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 14:05

>>1
You're a fucking moron.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 14:16

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 14:26

>>14
You're a fucking moro.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 14:33

>>14
That makes you even a bigger fucking moron. Learn a proper OOP language like smalltalk.

Name: >>14 2011-06-03 14:36

>>16
And I'm not >>1.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 21:04

c++
strengths

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 21:32

python python python

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 21:36

>>1

*YOU* are full of bullshit.

C++ is a horrible language. It's made more horrible by the fact that a lot
of substandard programmers use it, to the point where it's much much
easier to generate total and utter crap with it. Quite frankly, even if
the choice of C were to do *nothing* but keep the C++ programmers out,
that in itself would be a huge reason to use C.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-03 22:15

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-04 1:36

>>20
It's made more horrible by the fact that a lot of substandard programmers use it.
I don't think that's the fault of the language. Rather, we should be blaming the true perpetrator here: Microsoft. Their MFC/ATL, COM/DCOM, and Hungarian notation practices bred an entire generation of mediocre, no terrible C++ programmers.

The core Standard C++ language and libraries are decent, and other C++ frameworks are quite excellent. See Qt. Just don't have anyone who is a Microsoft-only programmer have anything to do with your projects.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-04 1:42

>>22
Mr. Torvalds will not likely be by to reply to your comment. Sorry.

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-04 2:49

>>19
I like python because it makes a lot of things easy and has libraries that make more things easy.  I do not like that it is a few hundred times slower than LuaJIT or C or C++ and uses a few tens of times more memory.  I do not like that it lacks anonymous functions (no, "lambdas with one expression" are not "anonymous function" until functional code written in Python compiles to the same thing as imperative code written in Python) and coroutines (but you can fix this by installing greenlet).

Name: Anonymous 2011-06-04 4:55

>>24
There should be more Pythonista like you. I like you.

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