Why Nerds Are Unpopular

I'm posting this here first hoping that /prog/rammers are the most mature of the textboard audiences. Please take time to read it till the end. It will make a lot of things click, and will make life start to seem way less gloomy.

http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html

Paul graham is a lisp weenie

>>2
Actually, he did answer anything you could come up with in the other page. It's short:

http://www.paulgraham.com/renerds.html

>>3
Why don't you fuck an autistic nigger

>>4
I know you're very mad. Do you have anything real to say?

>>5
Not really. He mad bro

i wish this was true. dumb nerd reporting in..

You don't need to posit a conspiracy.
He is wrong. School system was concieved by the jewish establishment, that is why you have Java and Set Theory subjects in school.

The school system was invented in India to preserve the caste system.

JOCKS CAN PROGRIM

>>9
No. It were jews. Read wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_education
every parent in Judea since Moses's Covenant with God, nearly a thousand years prior, was required to teach their children at least informally. Over the centuries, as cities, towns and villages developed, a class of teachers called Rabbis evolved. According to the Talmud (tractate Bava Bathra 21a) which praises a sage Joshua ben Gamla with the institution of formal Jewish education in the 1st century AD., Ben Gamla instituted schools in every town and made formal education compulsory from the age of 6 or 7.

>>11
That is: school system has it's roots in religion.

hoping that /prog/rammers are the most mature of the textboard audiences.
Bad mistake motherfucker.

>>1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism
This is especially true in America, where everything that can be hated gets hated, but other countries are usually not much different, except for the clear distinction of α/β/γ/ω described by Graham.

I never cared of being popular, and always be apathetic, and never tried to socialize with classmates, but I was pretty popular (and that bothered me, I just wanted to be left alone till the end of the day, go back home and do what the fuck I wanted), surely not ω.

I didn't read it till the end, I stopped some paragraphs after ``if they're so smart, why can't they be popular? They don't want to be popular to begin with?'' and him whining about how miserable was his nerd life.
They are not smart, if they were, they would've know how to hide their powerlevel and being cultured (which is very different than having high grades, here), and how to socialize with people. If they didn't care, they wouldn't whine about being unpopular. The so-called nerds just lack social skills, and they are aware of that, but they still want to socialize, and completely fail at it.

Nerds should just grow some balls and confront reality. And if such a thing comes from me, your social skills must be completely fucked up.

Bump for better-than-spam.

I was a 'popular nerd' with social skills. The older I got the less I cared so the less popular I became. Now I'm friends with only nerds and I'm the one who ends up mediating all the asinine pissing contest nerd arguments.

>>14
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism
In eastern europe the word "intellectual" is just another term for am arrogant jewish asshole, because various groups of jews often self-identified themselves "intellectuals" as opposed to goyim.

>>16
Kill yourself.

>>17
I don't take orders from jewish maggots.

There is also perojative word "intelligentsia"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligentsia

today used mostly in reference to jews of Soviet Union.

>>14
I didn't read it till the end, I stopped some paragraphs after ``if they're so smart, why can't they be popular? They don't want to be popular to begin with?'' and him whining about how miserable was his nerd life.
They are not smart, if they were, they would've know how to hide their powerlevel and being cultured (which is very different than having high grades, here), and how to socialize with people. If they didn't care, they wouldn't whine about being unpopular. The so-called nerds just lack social skills, and they are aware of that, but they still want to socialize, and completely fail at it.

You should have read it. The beginning sounded like whining, but there's a profound analysis towards the end.

Also, people are confusing what the word "nerd" means.
Geek: intense interest in something unpopular (e.g., an anime fan)
Nerd: studious, usually teachers' pet; only socialize with other nerds for the most part
Dork: someone who looks/dresses/acts ugly and weird

The categories are not mutually exclusive. But the point is that he was talking about nerds in that sense of the word, not the popularized one.

>>20
Adding to that, he did address popular nerds. And he did address non-popular non-nerds. The essay is an analysis of the dynamics of the closed society that is the school. Stopping to read at any point means missing out a lot.

>>13
Are you suggesting there's a better audience on 4chan's textboards? /vip/? /lounge/? /anime/? Please.

>>20
Lispers would be geeks, as they don't teach Lisp in schools as opposed to Set Theory.

>>22
Try /vip/, its VIP QUALITY.

academic culture is pyramidal, not polycentric, and resembles a closed and genteel social circle. Meanwhile it draws on resources from taxpayers, foundations, endowments, and tuition payers, and it judges the social service delivered. The result is a self-organizing and self-validating circle.

Academic elitism suggests that in highly competitive academic environments only those individuals who have engaged in scholarship are deemed to have anything worthwhile to say, or do. It suggests that individuals who have not engaged in such scholarship are cranks.

It is also an ideological belief that only those who attended the most elite or prestigious universities (such as Ivy League schools, Grandes Écoles or Oxbridge) are capable of obtaining wealth and power.

>>20-21
I've read it all now. Well, it makes (too much) sense, and I mostly agree with him, especially since it explains the bad and useless instruction they give them when they're 11~16 years old.

He also covered all my points in >>14. Nothing to comment about, he's mostly right.

One of my points still stands, though.
If they're smart, they should know how and when lower to the ``commoners''' level. If you know that being the teacher's pet is considered un-cool, just don't be it. If you know that you're smarter than them, don't show it, you don't have to. It takes very little effort, and then you can even tell them clearly to go fuck themselves.
I've always hated the nerds that act like nerds, the elitist holier-and-smarter-than-thou faggots (not that I don't fit in the description so far too, but I don't show it) that bitch and whine on how miserable they are. Genuine hate, not trying-to-fit hate. Maybe that helped me to not be pestered.

>>26
being the teacher's pet
Makes you a conformist faggot.

I didn't read it.  I know all I know need to know.

>>26
I've always hated the nerds that act like nerds, the elitist holier-and-smarter-than-thou faggots (not that I don't fit in the description so far too, but I don't show it) that bitch and whine on how miserable they are. Genuine hate, not trying-to-fit hate. Maybe that helped me to not be pestered.
It's human nature not to like unpleasant people, and you're right about that. No matter how intelligent one is, no matter how much the masses suck, there's no need to be a visibly elitist, bitching asshole. And there's no need to be that attention-whoring, stereotypical "nerd" that acts as dorky as it could get and kills people's respect for intelligence. I agree that the latter breed lacks intelligence (they're more dorks than nerds), but not necessarily the former. (Not that I'm defending them.) Even your last point was partly addressed in the questions page. Here's the link again in case you didn't read it. It's a short one:
http://www.paulgraham.com/renerds.html

>>29
I read that too, but that was more about me than a reason for why nerds are unpopular, since I knew some nice guys that got always picked on. I'd even say they're even an easier target.

Again, I have to agree with everything, especially with the ``public schools are bad because there's no motivation to be competitive'' part, especially if the schools are funded by the government: they get paid anyway.

In Sweden public schools are in general better or at least as good as private schools when it comes to education. At least when we're talking about natural sciences programs and obligatory school.

The private schools often have better food and stuff like that though.

Capitalistic competitiveness = better schools doesn't have to be true, in a world where image and marketing is everything the risk that the opposite is true is much higher.

On the other hand, the preceding paragraph is faulty in several ways too as several universities has a good image because they are good.

Well, to be honest, I have no idea why the US's school system is so shitty, I've never experienced it myself.