Anybody program them? Like Arduino? Or the Alternatives? Have any good links? Hardware I should be using? Wasap?
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Anonymous2011-04-22 4:20
BUMPS. Trunk reference.
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Anonymous2011-04-22 4:37
A popular saying!
:) :D
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Anonymous2011-04-22 4:51
Just build your own :-)
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Anonymous2011-04-22 4:57
Noted! Googled. U still gotta buy their "CPU" tho huh? to use ther shit easiest?
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Anonymous2011-04-22 5:00
U know- use code compiled against their processor? ^_^
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Anonymous2011-04-22 5:02
I mean short of getting a chip flasher and that I Do Not Want to need. !!!!! . So - Its good to get by without that.
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Anonymous2011-04-22 5:02
A special purpose ROM chip flasher
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Anonymous2011-04-22 5:04
is that "PICAXE" any good?
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Anonymous2011-04-22 5:04
Does it require anything super special? Does it have sensors? and cool shit?
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Anonymous2011-04-22 5:07
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Yeah, I recommend AVR ATMega. Other people could perhaps recommend Microchip PIC.
So this is what you need:
- MCU (the microcontroller of your choice, ATMega, PIC, etc...)
- Programmer device that is used to program your MCU
- Your computer. You need it to write code and use the programmer device to program MCU
If you don't have experience in electronics it is best to buy a micro-controller board (or development board, or evaluation board or some-other-name-here). There are boards for AVR and Microchip controllers. But if you know what you're doing, you can save money by making your own board.
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Anonymous2011-04-22 5:08
OK so it's pretty much in the air then? I dont know too many that use them yet. :) It's all good.
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Anonymous2011-04-22 5:09
Oh! OK - Saved. I will personally try these things. Friend has name brand parts coming.
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Anonymous2011-04-22 5:11
wait HEEEEEEEEYYYYY I alreaday knew all that! :/ ... watever. OK! HEY guess what I HAVE PRGORAM CHUNKS for it :D
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Anonymous2011-04-22 5:12
lol I will still check out ATR and PIC :) no doubt.
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Anonymous2011-04-22 5:14
and there is a bunch I have to wing with the programming. it will take a few people on staff when we test. to not burn down the place.
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I recently received a Panda Board, it's a dual-core ARM Cortex A9 MPCore SoC development board. Just installed Debian 6 on it, and plan to do some actual development on it soon.
Arduino's good for beginners, but I recommend ditching the Arduino libraries and switching to plain avr-libc as soon as possible. You can still use the same hardware, but you'll learn a lot more and produce better code.
When you feel you're ready to graduate from 8-bitters I suggest getting something based on the ARM Cortex-M3. They are a lot more powerful but still very easy to use and importantly, designed to be used from C. For example Luminary/TI have several cheap boards with an on-board USB JTAG interface for programming and debugging. There's also a few Cortex-M3 boards that use the Arduino form factor if you want to use shields.
building your own boards is cool and my be cheaper, but if your just starting off, you might want to get a kit with some basic parts, leds, pushbuttons, servos, etc and get some experience using these, then if you like it, you can build your own boards for out projects. makezine always has cool shit
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OP- No- & only because others obviously gave a shit about topic. >>22
Yes, I was drunk last night! Perceptive of you. :) >>25
Even tho >>27 says you're in wrong topic, TY for suggestion. >>27
a form factor w/The USB also sounds ideal! I'll have to check into it.
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Anonymous2011-04-22 17:59
...but I'm still confused how they had $1.85 32-Bit (ROM?) Chips??? That's really darn cheap. Is that for real?
STM have 32-bit MCUs for less than a dollar. Modern process technology has made it so that the price is determined by the number of package pins, then the amount of RAM and flash. The CPU core itself is pretty much free.
Also, those TI C2000 chips are DSPs, not recommended for beginners. They're a lot more complex and the tools suck.
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Hqy ``faggot'' maybe you should go away. This is not one of your African American Homosexual boards, this is MICROCONTROLLER PROGRAMMING, MOTHERFUCKER. prostitute.
YOU CAN STEAL MY FARTS, BUT YOU CAN'T STEAL MY GNUFREEDOM!
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Anonymous2011-04-23 17:02
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Is this "value kit" from T.I. any good?- https://estore.ti.com/MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430-LaunchPad-Value-Line-Development-kit-P2031.aspx
...? It reminds me a lot of my buddies Arduino, and it would be slick if I could prog it in C like the Arduino. The sample code I found for PicAxe was in Yet ANother language, and frankly, C++ should meet most microcontroller needs I'd think.
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Anonymous2011-04-23 17:04
My buddies fancy "newest" Arduino ran him a fat $60 , where as, this one from TI is less than a ten spot.
OK yep. Find the PDF manual for it, and in the screenshot of the (supposedly crappy) supplied IDE, it shows "main.c" open. I wonder if it can use cpp files?
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The MSP430 is supposed to be OK, haven't used them myself. TI are trying to cash in on the Arduino phenomenon with their value kit, but it's not nearly as popular which also means it's not as easy to find someone to help you if you run into problems. You'll also miss out on all the existing Arduino shields. However the kit is so ridiculously cheap you'd almost need a reason not to get it. As your skills increase you'll find that switching between MCU architectures is less and less of an issue, so just having a spare board you can dig out of the closet for some quick project can be a great timesaver. You might want to check that the tools run on your platform of choice though. GCC supports the MSP430, but I don't know if you need some special Windows-only upload tool to program the chip.
The PICAXE is in the end just a PIC microcontroller, as long as you have a way of getting your code into the chip there's no requirement to use their environment. Similarly just because you're using an Arduino board there's no requirement that you have to use the Arduino environment or libraries. For one project I needed an AVR board and an Arduino Mini was the quickest way to get going. The first thing I did was to erase the Arduino bootloader, and just used avr-libc and the built-in flash programming interface.
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Anonymous2011-04-23 18:19
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Yeah that's what I gather- when they labled it Value they werent kidding! The schematics are impressive, and the thing can be expanded by breadboard and it will hand the breadboard anything it requests. OK, sounds like I can't go wrong starting with this one. I'll make my friend by me one. I'm leaning all this for him anyway. :)
The Arduino is open hardware, shop around and see if you find cheaper clones.
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Anonymous2011-04-23 19:08
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Yeah- that must be what he was mentioning! He said all of the *DUINOs are from the same stock. OK! :)
Such as this little one here--- http://www.ladyada.net/make/boarduino/
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Anonymous2011-04-23 19:25
Oh ---- buddy finally SMS me back--- there's a 2nd arduino coming- we're waiting on the package. COMON package! :D
Op here.
OK, so I got a board to use now. I got an XBEE on a seeeduino stalker 2. Should I get this thing to report sensors via network after led blink tutorial? I need an accelerated startup. More than the O,REALY? book even. Got a code chunkedge to share, Anon? :)
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Anonymous2011-05-01 3:23
srsly should be up yesterday type deal. Right? :D ... Just learned & got though. Help appreciated.
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Anonymous2011-05-01 3:35
Can I just clump the functions together in the main file? Like normal? and the certain defs in the header? I guess this is wat I need to know? Or is it more than that?
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Anonymous2011-05-01 3:38
PS: serial connection already reporting.
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Anonymous2011-05-01 3:48
Only new files for a CLASS, right? And I dont think I'll b using classes. :)