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Abstract Bullshite

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 9:26

Next, a few words that will have to be used repeatedly. Consider
the simple example in which, under the influence of sunshine,
pale skin changes to dark skin. Something, the pale skin, is
acted on by a factor, the sunshine, and is changed to dark skin.
That which is acted on, the pale skin, will be called the operand,
the factor will be called the operator, and what the operand is
changed to will be called the transform. The change that occurs,
which we can represent unambiguously by

pale skin -> dark skin

is the transition.

The transition is specified by the two states and the indication
of which changed to which.

TRANSFORMATION
The single transition is, however, too simple. Experience has
shown that if the concept of “change” is to be useful it must be
enlarged to the case in which the operator can act on more than
one operand, inducing a characteristic transition in each. Thus the
operator “exposure to sunshine” will induce a number of transitions,
among which are:

cold soil->warm soil
unexposed photographic plate->exposed plate
coloured pigment->bleached pigment

Such a set of transitions, on a set of operands, is a transformation.

CHANGE
Another example of a transformation is given by the simple
coding that turns each letter of a message to the one that follows
it in the alphabet, Z being turned to A; so CAT would become
DBU. The transformation is defined by the table:

A->B
B->C

Y->Z
Z->A

Notice that the transformation is defined, not by any reference to
what it “really” is, nor by reference to any physical cause of the
change, but by the giving of a set of operands and a statement of
what each is changed to. The transformation is concerned with
what happens, not with why it happens. Similarly, though we may
sometimes know something of the operator as a thing in itself (as we know something of sunlight), this knowledge is often not
essential; what we must know is how it acts on the operands; that
is, we must know the transformation that it effects.

Name: Part 2 2011-04-21 11:21

For convenience of printing, such a transformation can also be
expressed thus:


|  A B .. Y Z
v  B C .. Z A


We shall use this form as standard.

2/4. Closure. When an operator acts on a set of operands it may
happen that the set of transforms obtained contains no element
that is not already present in the set of operands, i.e. the transformation
creates no new element. Thus, in the transformation

|  A B .. Y Z
v  B C .. Z A

every element in the lower line occurs also in the upper. When this
occurs, the set of operands is closed under the transformation. The
property of “closure”, is a relation between a transformation and
a particular set of operands; if either is altered the closure may
alter.
It will be noticed that the test for closure is made, not by reference
to whatever may be the cause of the transformation but by
reference of the details of the transformation itself. It can therefore
be applied even when we know nothing of the cause responsible
for the changes.

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 12:46

>>1
Consider the simple example in which, under the influence of sunshine, pale skin changes to dark skin.
If what you are saying is true, then it's the most horrible thing I've ever heard and I'm going to have nightmares about getting out and being accidentally affected by this terrible sunshine.

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 13:40

>>3
That's right.  The moment you get out of your basement into the sun you'll turn into a nigger.

Name: OP 2011-04-21 14:32

Now /prog/, the challenge...

Model Operator, Operand, Transform and Transformation using yout language of choice

Do it as general as possible.

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 14:33

Class parameter manipulation?
You call that hard?
Go try the infinite set problem I gave you instead.

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 14:36

Class parameter manipulation

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 14:40

Oh hey This works on here, but not on the image boards. Gay. .... .... (supposed to be site-wide?)

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 14:41

>>8

If it was supposed to be implemented on a site-wide basis then why isn't it implemented on a site-wide basis?

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 14:44

>>9
Well it doesnt work on the image boards like /g, so how could u say that?

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 14:45

Try it on there and see! LoL?

Name: OP 2011-04-21 15:10

>>6
I didn't say it was hard

When a problem is simple, is a challenge too. The thing is who does it in the most clever way.

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 15:18

>>6

link plz? I don't remember that thread

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 15:43

Testing
[img]http://content.ytmnd.com/content/b/6/d/b6def491e1dd6a65e25c173af31c577a.jpg[img]
for i=1 i<1 i++
   kill.self();

[table][tr][td]top left[/td][td]top right[/td][/tr][tr][td]bottom left[/td][td]bottom right[/td][/tr]
...
:)

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 15:45

are image tag and table tag turned off in /prog?

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 15:51

OIC of course it printed it. I nevr closed Table OR img. OK lets try that again....
[img]http://content.ytmnd.com/content/b/6/d/b6def491e1dd6a65e25c173af31c577a.jpg[/img]
[table][tr][td]top left[/td][td]top right[/td][/tr][tr][td]bottom left[/td][td]bottom right[/td][/tr][/table]

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 15:52

now THAT was valid code, but it didn't launch it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 15:56

[quote=Anon]Fuck![/quote]

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 15:58

>>14-18
Can you fuck off back to /g/, please?

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 15:58

/prog/ seems to be BBCode fail? Even if most of the dipshits that come through here cannot manage the few commands are ARE allowed. ;P

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 15:59

>>19
No.
You gotta post that pic for me. You know which one. :) "Have you read your SICP today"-with-the-crazy-trouser-snake-guy .

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:00

Pleeeeeease.

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:01


      ^^^^ *Starts warming up for opera!*

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:01

o.O

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:04

*oooooOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaa*!!!
:)
Painting picture SICP pic plzxz?

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:06


       *Charging Lasers, Cptn.* Rdy on your command.

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:08

Comon anon all u gotta do is give me link to that pic and I'll go.

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:09

linkplx

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:11

La la-l-a-la-LINK, Please.
:)

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:21

Link-a-Roni?

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:21

Link Tastic & the Link Meisters!

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:25

Give me a link to pic: "Have you read your SICP today?"-with-the-crazy-trouser-snake-guy

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:31

Comon!
"PWwaa! pwa-pwa-pwa-pwaaEEEEEASE, Eddie!"
:D

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:38

I will:
[ul][li]Leave you alone[/li]
[li]lurkmoar[/li]
[li]fart[/li][/ul]
Does my offering please Kitty?

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:49

Eh?
Give me a link to pic: "Have you read your SICP today?"-with-the-crazy-trouser-snake-guy !

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:51

>>21-34
GO THE FUCK AWAY, ``please".

Name: Anonymous 2011-04-21 16:52

Eh?
Give me a link to pic: "Have you read your SICP today?"-with-the-crazy-trouser-snake-guy !

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