C, Objective C, or C++?

If I wish to pick one of the three to learn, which should I pick?

C family
good

>which should I pick?

What do you want to do with it?

>>2
Enjoy your Java.

>>3
I am learning it to get a better understanding of the underlying concepts of the family, but ideally I'd hope to use it to write various projects as well, some real time others not.

Lisp

LISP

>>4
Java is part of the C family, like it or not.

language_t C_Family[] = {
  "C", "C++", "C#", "D",
  "Go", "Java", "JavaScript",
  "Objective C", "Objective C++",
  "Vala", /* TODO: add more */
};

>>8
C#

>>9
C_Family[2].

Go with C.

C++ and Objective C abstract too much of what is going on behind the scenes.

i'm learning C atm by writing me a DWARF FORTRESS so there will
be a huge amount of insightful threads for newbie C programmers
on /prog/ in the next couple of weeks.

my advice to you: don't just jump in, if you want to use a
feature you're not comfortable with yet then FIRST READ A
TUTORIAL. this will save you hours of work in GDB.

fucking pointer arithmetic.


testan

>>8
JavaScript
HIBT?

C++ is shitty and complicated (if you're a pimple-faced fucktard who just glossed over Sam's "Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days", do not post with your opinion on how C++ is SO SIMPLE OMG!!!111), and if you use the vector and string type, you'll end up not learning anything anyway. Objective C is rumored to be nice, but I'm not sure why anyone would want to use it (unless your motivation is to write applications for the iPhone or something).

That leaves C. C is *minimal*, but don't mistake that for easy. You can't really get by doing anything complicated in C without knowing what's going on behind the scene, at least somewhat. The downside of its low-level nature is that passing around data can become complicated, and as such you really have to think about how you're structuring things (or, if it gets too complex, you'll end up rolling your own data structure (obviously, in the Real World, you'd use a tested library, but we're talking about pedagogy here), which is valuable in its own right).

In short: C can be hairy, but once you "know" it, it can be a useful tool.

>>12

You are annoying.

>>15
Nice answer. Thanks.

>>15

You have given what I consider to be the best possible advice on this subject. I wrote this post simple to applaud your efforts.

>>11

You need to read SICP.