/prog/ - Android development

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 11:08

Does /prog/ do any Android development? If so, what language do you use? Have you made anything successful? I'm interested in trying my hand at it, preferably without using ENTERPRISE JAVA.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 11:08

Android is Java.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 11:10

Kawa.
http://per.bothner.com/blog/2009/AndroidHelloScheme/

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 11:23

android is linux kernel + java?

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 11:24

>>4
Pretty much, but it's Google's own JVM instead of Sun's.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 11:58

>>5
which is register-based

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 12:04

>>6
Google's

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 14:06

>>7
Register's

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 14:36

>>3
How well does this perform? I know some lisps_{_{*cough*clojure*cough*}} have absolutely terrible on Android.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 14:37

>>9
terrible performance*

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 15:08

the anticudder himself taught a class on Android development at MIT and did not put it up on MIT opencourseware even though he is one of the creators of creative commons
http://people.csail.mit.edu/hal/mobile-apps-spring-08/

If so, what language do you use?
lolz, like you have a choice

just buy the book "Hello, Android", download the Adroid SDK, the Java JDK and Eclipse, the book tells you how to set it up

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 15:46

>>11
lolz, like you have a choice
He has, everything that run on JVM and doesn't depend on Java standard libraries.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 16:11

>>12
Android doesnt use the JVM, it uses Dalvik

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 19:15

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Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 19:28

I don't think puddi runs on the JVM.

>>12
How much does Dalvik change? Is it just the removal of AWT/Swing/etc or is it a more dramatic change?

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 19:50

>>15
it changes a lot, instead of .class files it has .dex files which are more compact and work more like an executable binary on top of the Linux kernel. and the Java libraries are different, they are much more optimized to work in low power environments than even J2ME

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-04 20:48

>>16
Good. I've always thought that the Java standard library is a piece of shit.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 10:06

get a iphone op

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 11:01

get a iphone op
learn a programming language that you can only use on apple products

learn a graphical interface API you can only use on apple products

have to pay apple to sell any apps you make commercially

sounds like a great way to start out

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 11:32

>>19
GCC
GNUstep

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 11:51

>>19
Don't be a greedy bastard, just give all your money to poor Jobs now.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 12:46

>>19
Compare with Android, where you can't sell anything because almost all Android users are either too damn cheap to pay a dollar for an app, or smart enough to know how to pirate them, and the open platform makes pirating really fucking easy to do. And there's hardly ever an incentive to pay anyway because most of the paid apps are pretty shitty.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 14:30

NO FREE BOOKS, WHAT THE FUCK

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 14:40

>>22
You sound upset.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 14:52

>>24
You sound subset

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 15:23

>>25
U MENA _subset

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 15:41

And there's hardly ever an incentive to pay anyway because most of the paid apps are pretty shitty.
This is not exclusive to Android.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 17:13

Your only choices are Java or Scala, and both are terrible languages. Everything else is SLOW AS FUCK.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 17:14

>>28
Java is SLOW AS FUCK.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 17:37

>>28
then someone should port Clojure to Dalvik VM

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 18:04

>>30
From Google
https://github.com/remvee/clojurehelloandroid
http://riddell.us/ClojureAndAndroidWithEmacsOnUbuntu.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/clojure@googlegroups.com/msg07499.html

From http://clojure.org/libraries
https://github.com/remvee/clj-android/

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 19:12

For anything I wnted to do with my phone, the scripting has been more than enough.
http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 19:25

>>22
I don't fancy currying to the powerless and incompetent for spare change by becoming one of them.

Why would you want to charge for it, anyway? Don't you people have jobs?

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 19:43

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Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 19:44

>>33
The Lisp using students of {spoiler]/prague/[/spoiler]. You must be joking,son.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 19:45

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Name: Anonymous 2010-12-05 19:51

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Less of this.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-09 2:22

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Don't change these.

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