rogramming courses?

Dear /puddi/,

Why or why do so many people fail to learn programming?
Is it because they fail to see programming as calculation of data and instead see a black box that magically does things?

Or is it because they can't grasp the "strict" typing of a programming language?

What is it, /prog/, that makes programming so hard, even the introductory course seems so hard for people, even with languages like LISP or Python, and books like SICP?

>>17
>If A, B and C are accepted as true (define the system in some way, with some axioms) -> (possibly an) infinity of true statements follow from those base ideas".
And why should we believe in your crazy math axioms, that state that "for each N there exist N+1 > N". That isn't obvious at all, and in programming practice leads to integer overflow.

>Mathemathics is a very useful
"Useful" for whom? Can you show us usefulness of math?

>certain things like computer science are basically just a branch of math
And as we all know, computer science is a pseudoscience, that diverges far away from sensible reality. You won't find IRL these crazy turing machines or super-computations. Real computers are simple FSMs. No match needed.

>A lot of processes in real life can be modeled very well by math
In practice all "of processes in real life" are finite, so dont require math at all. You can model them with Lisp for that matter.