IT > CS or CE

Enjoy your smug sense of self worth and inflated ego while I enjoy my stable job with high income and benefits.

Who let you out of the server room?
Get back there, cable monkey, before I slap you with a binary tree.

>>2
I quite enjoy working in a server room, actually. It's air conditioned, spacious, and I have it all to myself most of the time. Better than a code monkey's cubicle.

And enjoy being outsourced and trying to make a living off of Github.

>>3
Enjoy being completely replaced by a machine.
A machine programmed by your oh so hated "code monkeys" and built by those evil computer engineers.

>>4
Yeah, let's see you automate my work. Go on, program something which can entirely replace a sys admin.

Oh wait, you can't.

>>5
pfft.
99% of network problems can be diagnosed by a machine with waaay more efficiency than a human.
the only part about you that may be hard to replace is plugging cables in; but we can always train a chimp to do that :3

Programs programmings programs (LISP Macros) can replace programmers.

>>7
Teeheehee.
He thinks LISP is useful, how cute.

am I kawaii uguu~

>>6
Apparently you don't know much about networking, nor do you know all of what a sys admin does.

Enjoy your delusions.

>>10
Certified CCNP up in this motherfucker.

>>11
CCNP-Complete?

>>1
I will, along with my job.

>>11
not CCIE

small time

>>14
Haters gonna hate.

>>14
Obviously never studied for these certifications.
CCIE is friggin hardcore.
Certainly overkill for a programmer with no interest in being a cable monkey

>>1
Enjoy your soul crushing 9-5 tie job.  Then, after 15 years of dedicated service to your large corporation nipple, they cut you off from your milk supply and force you to scrabble around for a new one.  Sure, you'll probably find another job, but it will be just as boring and soul crushing than the last, and you'll still start at the bottom of the chain again.

With CS and CE, on the other hand, are not all soul crushing tie jobs.  Instead of fiddling with config files and dealing with shit head users that can't remember their password is 'password', you become an invaluable multi purpose tool.  Database, GUI, Video Game, Simulation, System programming are all examples of the kind of work you can do with a CS degree.  If a job doesn't suit you or you get shit canned out of the blue, you can get a new job in a completely different field and keep your life interesting.

Sure, if you want some asshole chairman throwing money at you to plug cables in 9-5 wearing a monkey suit, then you can do that.

If you want a job that's actually fun and lets you enjoy what you do, and a happier life to go with it, CS or CE is the way to go.

>>17
Indeed.
Not to mention that after 30 years of coding or engineering you can look back at all the things you've created.
But after 30 years of network maintenance you don't have anything to show

I get paid for solving puzzles and creating shit while sitting in front a monitor. I don't even have to argue with you.

>30 years of coding or engineering
Dear God, please kill me at once!
Fortunately one won't spend all those years just as a coder. Sooner or later he will advance further and become a team-leader first, then some bigger cheese who will instruct the others what to do instead of actually doing it.

>>1-20
NERD

>>20
And get paid for not doing actual work

>>17
I find my job enjoyable. The fact that you dislike my line of work doesn't change that. But really, job stability and pay are more important than enjoyment. Does it matter if you have fun programming if you're only making a small amount of money? If I had to choose, I'd pick a boring, high-paying job over a fun but low-paying one. But luckily for me I don't have to make such a decision.

>>18
⁶⁶Nothing to show⁹⁹? Oh okay. Because if you're not making programs, you're obviously accomplishing nothing. Yep. Makes perfect sense.
Diagnosis: autism

>>20
Management is an entirely separate field though.

>>21
Back to /b/, please.

>>22
Are you implying that management isn't work?

>>1
my stable job with high income
If you had ever had a senior engineer's salary, you would know why we're laughing at you right now.

>>23
Are you implying that management isn't work?
Are you trolling?

>>23
Fuck off, ``faggot''.

>>26
Go back to /b/

>>30
I'm not an autistic homosexual like you, I can't choke on a cock.

>>23
Do you really put money over happiness?  That's a bad quality in my book, but if you enjoy your job, great.  Having a bad job, no matter how big the paycheck, is never worth it.  Do you really want to be miserable 8 hrs a day, worry about it when it's your time off, and loose sleep over it?

And seriously, when your comparing a CS or CE based pay check to an IT one, it's not like comparing a banking job to playing in an indie rock band.  It's buying a 25ft boat vs a 30ft boat.  You won't be living in a shit hole one job or the other, you just won't be able to buy that

But on a more troll note, your arguments are invalid.
Your response to >>18 is hilarious.  You give any arguments to the fact you have nothing to show so resort to calling >>18 autistic.

Your response to >>20 is stupid.  Management and engineering go hand in hand.  One man wrecking crews NEVER WORK EVER.  You may be the best engineer in the world but if you can't manage you aren't worth shit.

ITT: unemployed imagining what it would be like if the actually got one of the jobs they write applications to.

ITT: projection.

>>32
It's not always one extreme or the other. Just because you don't enjoy a job doesn't necessarily mean you'll be ``miserable''. There's some definite middle ground.

And what's ``hilarious'' about my response to >>18? Do you really believe that you're not accomplishing anything if you're not programming?

And you can be an engineer and not be a manager.

>>33
Believe it or not, people on /prague/ have jobs.

Computer Engineers make about 50+k out of uni and it only goes up.  lol

Sitting in a datacenter right now. Drinking free coffee after having froze my balls off out on the raised floor.
Beats diggin' ditches and pushing concrete, and I've done them both.

People with CS degrees have an easier time becoming a cable monkey if they want.

>>35
It's not always one extreme or the other.
NO WAY! I AM 12 AND I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!

>>39
NO WAY! I AM AUTISTIC AND I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!

Fixed that for you.

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