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To Java haters

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 6:23

Why are so many people angry at Java? I have to say, there’s something awfully hilarious about this new breed of Java hater. Hilarious in the way that seeing your autistic mongoloid 22 year old second cousin, while drooling idiotically and grinning proudly, decide to drop trow and masturbate in front of grandma at the Christmas family reunion only can be.

There's enough of them now for us to form a good caricature of said figures, which is bad news for them I’m sure as their self-perception is that of unique visionaries, rather than the tawdry mildly autistic self hating wankers they are. So what do they all have in common?

The first glaringly obvious point of commonality is that their new language is something with low adoption (compared to Java), is fashionable (this month/year), and is filled with ex-Java people. These are usually people who have been ‘demeaned’ by having to write non-sexy useful code, such as the boring apps that are the daily reality of programming. The daily reality being the need to achieve something thats useful to someone else, rather than some way of seeing exactly how far you can drag out your flaccid penis along a ruler.

The second point is that there has to be some barrier to entry. It can’t be something thats generally useful for which you can hire easily, the more obscure and awkward, the better. Ruby’s genius is in being just about hard enough for its developers to feel clever when they manage to get things done, thus continuing the by now familiar desperation that our industry has to feel self-important and worthwhile. It’s basically the latest manifestation of the ‘coding is an art I’m an artist nobody gets it boo fucking hoo’ syndrome.

We’ve always had lisp people, who are convinced their moment is just around the corner. While most of them are dead or retired now, the fucked up autistic genes that caused that sick disease is still rampant in society, and we’re seeing a new generation of infections in the form of all the ruby, groovy, and scala dryhumpers.

Another commonality is a deep, inexplicable insecurity that drives to constantly and belligerently squeal out their messianic drivel at every random passer-by. They’re the Java equivalent of the crazy dude at the corner literally thumping his bible and demanding you bend over and take it up the arse from Jesus or else your children will be eaten by some combination of Arabs, Jews, and Black People.

Finally, what’s most despicable about these people is their total and utter lack of self perception or insight. I honestly suspect that many of these so called ‘advocates’ are mildly autistic; they have no conception of any thoughts outside of their own, and assume that everything that goes on in their head is happening in everyone else’s too. The cognitive dissonance between their mental map and reality results in all this anger and hatred, and they end up drooling foolishly and twitching uncontrollably (sadly often in the vicinity of a keyboard).

Here’s a novel idea, how about getting a job and shutting the fuck up about it? Were you so unloved as children that you’re so desperate to squeal out your emotions to every inanimate object you come across? Are you THAT insecure that you so desperately plead for attention whenever you sense sentience nearby? Perhaps your mothers were better off drowning you as children, instead of the severe emotional beatings you seem to have received instead.

So really, all you dynamic language freaks, all you closure nazis, with your fancy scripts and your typeless nirvana, how fucking hard can it be to get the fuck out of our world, and go try and get a job doing what you asshats actually WANT to do? If your life is so great, why the fuck must you CONSTANTLY hassle us and shit in our coffee?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 6:33

>>1
C++

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 6:34

Saying java is good because it runs on all operating systems is like saying anal sex is good because You're a ``faggot''

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 6:39

no pointers

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 7:03

>>2
Come on, this one's even more hilarous

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 7:13

lol autism

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 8:04

If OP is serious then I might die of laughter

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 10:22

Java copied about 90% of its syntax from C++. C and C++ are verbose languages by design, often if you look in a Python book it will compare a Java or C++ code snippet to one written in Python and the Python code will usually be at least half as long, sometimes shorter, and much easier to read. Languages like Python and Ruby are much more expressive than Java, but the price is that more unit testing has to be done to prove program correctness due to lack of static typing. Please read the book "Beyond Java" by Bruce Tate which describes how dynamic languages are making inroads into enterprise programming frameworks. The book is very easy to understand and is meant to describe this technology to the novice.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 10:50

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Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 10:51

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Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 10:51

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Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 11:51

http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/java-haters-gtfo/

(((ok bitch)
(you asked for it)
(here goes))
(im taking out the fucking
(bold paranthesis on you))
(you fuqing angered an expert programmer)
(ive been here for (expt 3 88888000) years longer than you)
(ive read sicp twice)
(i know every programming language in the world
including apl)
(if u wanna batl (lets do it))
(ill crush you like a bean))


You didn't have to link back here you know.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 12:19

| cum in me bro

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 12:51

>>1
We’ve always had lisp people, who are convinced their moment is just around the corner.
You're a little confused there. Our moment extends from the 60s and into the present, showing no signs of ending. It's our world, child, you're just living in it. Enjoy your coffee though. I hope it's not too bitter.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 12:57

>>14
It's too bad  you will never get a real job with lisp, eh?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 13:06

>>15
Lisp jobs exist, but if it is a comfort for you to think that while you copy and paste together your PHP scripts, by all means do so.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 13:15

>>15
Not too bad at all. Who the hell wants a "real job"? All creative people avoid them.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 15:12

>>17
I live in a city full of creative people, they all have real jobs to support their "creative career"

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 15:51

>>17
The clever creatives get dull jobs that don't require thinking so they can work on ideas all day.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 15:55

Why are you lisp folks so easily trolled? We schemers are above that sort of thing.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 16:00

>>20
All three of you?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 16:02

>>21
Him, me and... the Sussman?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 16:03

>>21
There's actually only two of us. It's just that the use of Church numerals makes it look bigger.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 16:11

Choice bits:
``[Y]our autistic mongoloid 22 year old second cousin, while drooling idiotically and grinning proudly, decide to drop trow and masturbate in front of grandma at the Christmas family reunion[...]''

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 16:19

>>18
Enjoy your city of failed artists.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 16:39

>>25
They'll just replace the failed scientists.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 16:45

>>26
..and engineers.
True story. Welcome to L.A., baby.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 20:55

>>8
Java was designed to be C++ without the masochism.  Generally speaking Java language features are a subset of C++.

>>1
I knew this was too good for a /prog/ original.
http://www.bileblog.org/2008/05/java-haters-gtfo/

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 20:59

>>28
It would be more accurate to say it started as a subset.  Over time java has added features that have no C++ equivalent.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 21:28

I'm an old breed of Java hater. Forced exception specifications were a bad idea. Lack of unsigned types were a bad idea. No property syntax for field getters/setters was a bad idea.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 22:14

Lack of unsigned types were a bad idea.
I don't see why they couldn't still implement it in a future update, for either primitives or the wrapper classes.

No property syntax for field getters/setters was a bad idea.
First, why you think this is essential; and, secondly, why you think this could not be update-implemented?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 22:16

>>29
Over time? It started out with features that have no sepples equivalent. You know, like supporting object-oriented programming.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 22:19

>>32
OO can mean so many things that it kind of lost all relevant meaning. It had a meaning way before Java and Sepples, which was mostly eclipsed by marketing of newer languages. Nowadays it's just a buzzword. OO can be done in any language, including asm, it's just a way of looking at things to perform certain abstractions, just like functional programming can be done in any language if you follow a set of rules.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 22:20

>>31
Do you know why there are no Amish in the Java design committee?
All the potential candidates were rejected for being too radical and progressive.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 22:24

>>34
Java's just a heavily watered down statically (and strongly) typed imperative Lisp with C-like syntax and an excellent standard library/API with runs in its own VM.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 22:29

Java is just an obnoxiously outdated version of C#, and its owner beats it.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-27 22:44

>>34
So the chances of Java succumbing to C++-esque feature creep/bloat is minimal?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-28 0:39

>>37
It has feature creep but it's at a glacial pace.  It's interesting that C# to java is very analogous to C++ and C.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-28 0:53

>>38
Uh, bad analogy.  C# is less flawed than Java.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-28 5:04

>>36
and its owner beats it.
U MENA HASKAL

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-28 5:43

>>41
Shush, the adults are talking.

Name: because >>41 was 2010-08-28 9:33

>>42
Fuck off, ``faggot''.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-28 9:42

>nigger butts

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-28 9:42

butt nigger

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-28 9:42

this thread is lame

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-28 13:50

So really, all you dynamic language freaks, all you closure nazis, with your fancy scripts and your typeless nirvana, how fucking hard can it be to get the fuck out of our world, and go try and get a job doing what you asshats actually WANT to do? If your life is so great, why the fuck must you CONSTANTLY hassle us and shit in our coffee?
youve just been HURT FEELINGS AND BUTT RANGED go drink ur moms bredt milk u fart commander i bet u hav a fetish FOR MEN LMAO ur just so made all the time its 2 easy 23 own u "i like to drnikj sperm from my spermbottle while waring my sperm necklace" - u

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-28 17:33

>>39
You're an idiot.

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Name: Anonymous 2010-08-28 19:39

I must say, sir, your rhetorical prowess is unprecedented. Why be a programmer? You should be a comedian.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 1:09

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