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gtk+2.0 & c

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 7:07

I'm trying to create a 'browse' button with gtk that will allow the user to select a destination folder. Can this be done with a file_section widget, or do I need to use something else?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 9:00

THREAD HIJACKING

Does anyone else fucking hate the GTK file browse dialog? I especially hate that I use Qt, and yet that goddamn GTK dialog pops in a bunch of my programs, like Gimp, Firefox, etc.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 10:48

>>2
Very yes.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 10:52

>>2
I hear that all the time from KDE users.

I tried a KDE program once, the file dialogs looked like fucking Windows, with the stupidass sideways scroll. Completely unusable.

I think you guys just hate on Gtk because we actually came up with something usable instead of copying from the most incompetent OS in existance.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 11:05

They are both the worst thing in existance. Applications have no business deciding what file dialogue to use in the first place, they should prostrate themselves before the OS and ask ``please kindly Sir, may I have a file?''

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 12:34

I have seen OS X's file browse dialogue and I learned to appreciate the GTK one.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 14:20

>>6
Did you click the fucking triangle?  (You only have to click it once... ever...)  Did you know you can drag a folder from the finder into the file browser to go to it there?  Did you know that a nice and consistent set of keyboard shortcuts have worked in that dialog since the 1980's?  Seriously, where can you even find the documentation for Alt+Up and other GTK shortcuts (besides the dev docs)?  And why does it show all the goddamn invisible folders at the top (if I wanted to see them, I'd open a fucking terminal window and use ls -a)?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 14:35

Fucking Qt zealots. One day you'll get as dumb as pythoners.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 15:10

>>7
Right-click somewhere, fool!

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 15:51

The GTK dialog doesn't even allow one to move. rename or delete anything. Not even while saving a file where this would be useful. You can create a directory but fuck you if you made a typo or want to move some other files in there, too!
It doesn't even have a real thumbnail view. Fucking garbage.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 17:33

>>2
Eh, it's gotten better.  I don't mind it much any more.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 20:59

bump, since no one else will. i want to hear more ripping on gtk

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-19 22:40

I'M A QT PROGRAMMER
SON OF A BITCH GTK
GNOME IS PIG
DO YOU WANT A GLIB?
DO YOU WANT A LGPL?
GTK IS PIG DISGUSTING
GUIDO VAN ROSSUM IS A MURDERER
FUCKING GNOME FOUNDATION

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 5:34

>>13
GUIDO VAN ROSSUM
Uhh... <

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 9:04

Guys, they BOTH SUCK.

Console is the only correct answer.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 10:46

>>15
I don't know why people say this. A command prompt does not indicate what actions are available to the user; GUIs do.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 13:01

>>16
*grabs Tab*

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 13:22

>>16
IHBT

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 14:17

>>16
because with a command-line, all actions are available to the user

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 14:18

>>19
With a command-line can I edit an image?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 14:19

>>20
ImageMagick, WHAT UP

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 14:20

>>17,19
But you don't know what the possible actions are. How am I supposed to know, for example, that pressing TAB shows a list of command completions? All the information I have to go on is $ █

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 14:21

>>22
get a fucking book

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 14:46

>>23
Telling the users of your system or software to "get a fucking book" is not a recipe for customer satisfaction.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 14:59

>>22
How are you supposed to know, for example, that pressing LEFT MOUSE BUTTON activates the thing that is currently under the cursor? All the information you have to go on is SIMPLE FUCKING INTUITION

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 15:01

>>24
You don't pay me. You're not a customer.
I don't give a shit about you.

If you are too dumb to read buy a Mac.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 15:17

>>26
Since we are discussing the usability of command lines and GUIs in general, it is relevant to the discussion.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 15:21

>>27
If someone has purchased a command-line utility (does that ever happen?) then I'd assume they can use it.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 15:28

>>28
Yes it does. They come with books, often pre-printed and bound.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 15:58

>>29
And with animals on the cover?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 16:09

>>29
Thus this discussion is now closed. Thank you all for taking part.
>>30 You don't count, sorry.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 16:33

>>31
It's ok, I forgot my sage anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 17:39

>>24
Back when UNIX was new, if you bought a server you did indeed get a book. A book of documentation on how to use the command-line.

These days, a Windows command prompt might not give you any help (Microsoft is not big on the whole 'support' concept), but all UNIX-flavored desktops come with an electronic manual. It's called 'man pages' for short.

There's no point in shipping physical documentation for it with new PCs because 0.1% of the people who buy computers actually use the command-line. If you actually want to use the command-line, you get a book (or use the internet, since it's, you know, 2010.)

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 18:01

>>33
These days, a Windows command prompt might not give you any help ...

the command prompt gives you very verbose help, atleast on my system.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 19:55

[off topic]
the problem with man pages is that they are very inconsistent in quality and a lot of modern software just elides them altogether, when it comes to C functions I'd take the info pages
[/off topic]

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 20:03

>>7
And why does it show all the goddamn invisible folders at the top
That's just bad defaults by your distro, right-click and uncheck the option or use ctrl+h

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 21:22

>>36
And where the shit is that documented?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-20 22:18

>>37
If you want to change something context-sensitive, right click on the context to get a context menu.

This is documented in any 1st-grade-level introduction to computers, go take a class on how to use them.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-21 0:20

>>38
I was referring to the ctrl+h nonsense.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-21 0:22

(And the right click menu should never reveal anything that isn't accessible via other more obvious means. Any properly designed GUI follows that principle. Right click is a shortcut, not the answer.)

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-21 0:30

>>40
What the fuck? That isn't even remotely true, unless you use a Mac. But everyone knows that Macs suck.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-21 9:48

>>41
Ergo, Windows is not a properly designed GUI.
Don't change these.
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