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Charging money for a compiler

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 19:02

Hello /prog/

Is it wrong of me to charge money for a C compiler I'm writing for AVR processors?

I hate C, but I want to cash in on the morons who propagate C as a systems programming language, even though there are way better alternatives. I just get doubts about my motives once in a while

And I think my sanity is gone after trying to interpret all the ambiguity in the C language specification

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 19:11

CHARGE MY ANUS

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 19:13

It's wrong of you to think people would spend money on another C compiler for AVR.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 19:15

Enjoy losing your target market to a 12 year old.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 19:21

>>3
I guess most just pirate Imagecraft C compiler($249) or IAR($350)?

In that case, I'll probably have to present some really good arguments, so I can combat their compilers. Like standard compliance or some shit

>>4
What?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 19:32

What alternatives to C as systems language there are? JavaScript?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 19:38

>>6
Ruby on Rails.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 19:41

>>7
I laughed

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 19:49

>>6
Oberon and friends

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 20:08

>>1
Is it wrong of me to charge money for a C compiler I'm writing for AVR processors?
Certainly not. Only an ungrateful FOSStard would think that.

I hate C, etc.
You can stop baiting now. The FOSStard angle is more subtle, and that's saying a lot. YIHBTW.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 20:16

>>10
Thanks my friend. I feel slightly better now. I guess I just needed to let out some steam(I'm sorry I did it without some ´sage´). YHNBT

For now the C compiler has been laid on ice. Instead I've started the AvrOberon07 project. 16 page language spec. You got to love that

I think the alcohol made me do it. IO'm done

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 20:26

Dear >>11 ,

You won't by pure chance of course, be baking any cinnamon rolls?

Because if you are making some, I want at least one.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 20:28

>>12
I was planning to earlier. Bought all the ingredients, but then I got drunk instead..

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 21:19

>>1
Of course it isn't wrong. It might be a terrible business decision however. Who is your target market for this?

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 21:25

>>14
I thought I was going to have an easy market by providing a cheap, standard compliant C compiler. A bit ala AVR-GCC, although without the license crap

I think alot of freelancers buy IAR or the other big ones, because they don't want to get hold up on some license requirements or something

I was in the same problem a few months ago. I was asked to maintain some simple control software. No problem. Converting to IAR was a pain in the ass. Fucking pragmas

Selling a compiler at $20 or something like that would be a solution for me. That would mean I could buy a crate of beer less this week, but never have to worry about licensing again

$250 is just way too much for a dude who maintains shitty C code about 2-3 times a year

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 21:59

>>15
The problem there is that if you price it too low, no one will take you seriously. $250 is fucking pennies for someone who will be using your compiler for their firmware. They would much rather pay the higher price to get a more mature, well tested compiler.

It's like companies who pay $1000 for sqlite even though it's in the public domain. They *want* to pay a bunch of money just so they can shout at someone on the phone when shit goes south.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 22:03

>>16
It's like companies who pay $1000 for sqlite even though it's in the public domain.
You *have* to be fucking kidding me.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 22:09

>>10
Implying free software activists do not profit from selling software
Good one~

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 22:10

>>17
I kid you not.

http://www.hwaci.com/cgi-bin/license-step1

Even though SQLite is in the public domain and does not require a license, some users want to obtain a license anyway. [...] For a one-time fee of US $1000.00 we will add your company name and contact information to a copy of the sample license agreement, sign the completed license, and send you the original signed copy by post and a scan of the signed document by email.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 22:11

>>17
No. It's not about the money and money is usually a small part of the decision. It's all about being able to call someone. It's all about the support.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-11 22:21

>>20
That is apparently not what that particular license is about, and it would be bad for everyone involved. An optional $1000 license is not going to provide enough business to pay for support staff. I don't imagine that there is enough pressure to make a long list of licensees.

Name: Anonymous 2010-08-12 2:08

>>19
It must be some sort of inside joke. I can't imagine a company that would pay money when given the option not to.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-04 16:14


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