HTML5 is the future of the web

During the next year HTML5 will make Flash obsolete and replace it in all areas!

Discuss.

>>1
replace it in all areas
Including the anus?

>>2
You no longer have to Flash your anus, you can use HTML5 instead.

Your mom is the future of all of humanity.

can you render HTML5 using HTML5 programs?

>>2
No, that will use an XML schema called Feces Definition Language

No. It will not displace Flash in all areas. However, HTML5 together with other associated technologies will cover most of Flash's current capabilities.

This will only ever happen if a development environment for HTML5 is produced that's significantly better than Flash. It's already got a learning curve and lower browser compatibility working against it. The problem is, Flash naysayers will vehemently deny any advantages it possesses.

>>8
a development environment for HTML5 is produced that's significantly cheaper than Flash
Vim is pretty cheap.

It's already got a learning curve of HTML and Javascript, which are much harder than Actionscript
lower browser compatibility
The W3 consortium is known for its incompatibility.

Flash naysayers will vehemently deny any advantages it possesses.
Naysayers of Flash? Or Adobe weenies?

>>8

Serious stuff in Flash is just a joke.  You know, if your object graph is too large then Adobe's GC will just *give up*, which is why most Flash game devs use manual memory management.  Not even IE 6 has a Javascript GC that's that broken.

And it's patently clear that Adobe hasn't given a rat's ass about mobile phones for the past few years, only NOW are they trying to cover their shame by revising Flash to work on phones and tablets.

Flash is going the way of the BLINK tag and it's a good thing.  We will not remember these years fondly.

>>5
can you render HTML5 using HTML5 programs?
Only if it supports duck typing and pooping on a river while moving around.

>>9
This may surprise you but many people are still using old-ass web browsers and refuse to upgrade -- because they don't know any damn better. HTML5 will most certainly not run on these browsers. Flash will.

Why would "Adobe weenies" deny that Flash has advantages? You're speaking nonsense.

I hate Flash, but I also know a few Flash developers, and they certainly are in no hurry to drop everything, spend time internalizing all the nuances of HTML5 so that they know it as well as they know Flash. After many years of working on one platform, and being very comfortable with its inner workings, it's very very hard to switch.

As an analogy: many people will tout the benefits of both Vim and Emacs; but try convincing a long-time Vim user to switch to Emacs. It just won't happen, period. The keybindings are too ingrained in their heads to be changed without much force.

Or to put it like Ballmer, it all comes down to DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS.

>>12
Why would "Adobe weenies" deny that Flash has advantages? You're speaking nonsense.
I was expressing confusion at the quoted statement. Is `it' Flash or HTML5?

Also, your analogy is poor, as it implies that Vim is inferior to Emacs (they are equal).

>>13
"It" is of course Flash, although upon a reread of that sentence in light of your response to it, I can see how it might have been unclear.

your analogy is poor
You're missing the boat if you're thinking that; no harm, though. Just swap Vim and Emacs mentally and reread. The point I was making is that the major resistance from mass migration to HTML5 isn't anything to do with inferiority or superiority of one platform versus another -- it's the fact that Flash developers already have their own specialized environment, one that doesn't transfer easily to non-Flash.

Considering that most of the practical use-cases for Flash are centered around precisely the sorts of things that HTML5 was specifically designed for (i.e. multimedia playback and simple interactivity, not so much making complex little worlds like ecodazoo), on that level they are approximately equal. Performance concerns and old browsers aside, HTML5 is already technically superior, and browsers are only going to improve. Hopefully some of that development energy will be directed to making a suitable, cross-platform replacement for the Flash IDE.

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>>14
Oh man it's nice to know there are still actual people on this board.

>>15
Sounds like a fortune cookie.

>>1
HTML6 is the future of the web. http://html6.by.ru/

>suitable, cross-platform replacement for the Flash IDE.
So you want to see it? My JavaScript COMMAND CENTER?
http://pastebin.com/hyPXwNqw

>>19
document.body.donkeypress

Installation for beginner JavaScript programmers.
Create new files: editor.html and void.js
copy HTML from pastebin to editor.html, load it in firefox
write javaScript functions in void.js/editor.html in any editor you like(e.g. Notepad2) and reload the changes with browser.

>>21
Looks very spartan to me. Unless you hide the functionality in void.js, its just a basic REPL.

>>18
HTML7 is more future than HTML6 or 5.

>>23
iHTMLXeks10

>>1
LOL, html 4, 5 or 99.
html will still be a markup language, and will never be as powerful as flash combined with it's sexy actionscript 1,2 & 3.

>>25
Very funny.

28 Name: Anonymous 2011-01-18 13:01

>>26
Why yes, it is indeed very funny