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Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 7:13

Why do you faggots seem to think Open Source software is so great?

Proprietary software is made by professional software developers with real skills, while your GNU shit is made by neckbeards living in their parents basements.

You seem to think that software is made better by everyone being able to look at, and modify the source code of it. How many of you have actually contributed to a proper open source project? Not many I bet. So what is so great about being able to view the source code of your programs if you're not going to do anything with it.

Anyway, quit bragging about your crappy GNU shit and leave software development to the professional engineers.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 7:17

EXPERT TROLLING DETECTED.

I submitted a few minor patches to mplayer, and they were accepted. This was many years ago.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 7:18

the sad thing is all the 'professional software' is as bad or lower quality than open source, but everyone pays for it anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 7:21

what the fuck are you talking about? real open source projects like freebsd and chromium are neither gnu nor proprietary.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 7:43

FOSS is deadline-less. FOSS programmers are not motivated by being paid. FOSS programmers often have actual paid programming jobs, so they do have real skills. IHBT. FOSS programmers enjoy having other people contribute to their projects.
This is why it--What the fuck am I doing? Nobody cares anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 8:14

>>1
one word http://thedailywtf.com thread over

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 9:45

>>6
Much of what TheDailyWTF publishes is from internal custom-developed applications, often made by complete amateurs.  The WTFs are far fewer in most real-world successful commercial software codebases.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 10:08

>>7
I audit code for a living. I can tell you that that is a lie.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 10:39

>>7
Professional by definition is someone being engaged in a profession as a means of livelyhood. If someone is paid standard rates for their work, that person is a professional no matter how good or bad they are at their profession. An amateur is someone attached to a particular pursuit often without formal training or pay. It is quite possible for good amateurs that output better results without any pay and have a professional that compares poorly.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 13:10

>>7

No, they aren't. Have you *seen* some of the crap the Java Monkeys can churn out?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 14:14

>>10
Java is such a well designed language, that only beautiful elegant code can be written in it

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 14:21

>>11
0/10

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 14:40

>>12
EXPERT TROLL SPOTTER

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 14:49

>>10
In this post, 10-san has made a statement advocating programing language known as Java.

>>11
12-san has expressed their concern about 10-san's post by referencing the post and evaluating it at the lowest on a decimal scale.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 14:53

>>14
decimal?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 14:54

>>14

s/(\d\d)-san/>>\1-san/s

God i havent used perl for a long time, just hope i dont fail.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 15:30

>>16
U MENA s/(\d+)-san/>>$1[b][/b]-san/g

(to break the link before the hyphen, and fix all of them, and there's no point to using /s there)

(fuck me, I don't even write Perl. I'm a C programmer)

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 15:34

>>17
fuck me, I don't even write Perl.
Is that all it takes to get people to fuck you? I wish I'd known this sooner!

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 15:58

I dont know perl either ´∀｀

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 17:45

The quality of software is independent of how open its source is.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 18:47

>>20
You can pretend that's true if it makes you feel better, but it's not.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 20:45

>>21
There's a paradox in that. See: Blender, OS X, etc.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 21:02

>>22
Blender is commercially backed, and was closed source for quite some time as it was being developed.

Most of the actually relevant parts of OS X are closed source -- the user interface and the drivers. Good luck replicating CoreAudio, for example, and getting that 1ms latency mixing multiple outputs and handling MIDI events.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-05 23:15

>>23
That's the point, say what you will about Blender, it's FOSS, despite its commercial backing and closed origins. At one point the code was completely of both worlds, and by your assertion something that was necessarily both better and worse than itself at the same time.

I don't know what you're trying to say about CoreAudio. Sub-millisecond1 mixing latency hasn't been a hard target since OS X debuted. Provided your software mixer isn't written in FIOC, it's also more a matter of hardware than software unless you're doing a lot of real time synthesis or effects processing.

[m]__________________________________________________________
1. I will admit I haven't observed anything better than ~22.6 microsecond latency on Linux.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 1:52

>>24
If high performance audio is so easy, please link me to your open-source software mixer.  We'll be waiting.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 1:53

[/m]

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 2:28

>>25
What difference would it make? Like I said, it's a hardware issue. Anyway, if you insist: http://www.alsa-project.org/

My mixer is closed-source, however it connects to ALSA which does all the real work. The mixing code I wrote is a generic for loop that multiplies each channel by 1/#channels and then sums them. Think you can handle that?

>>26
It was in my post. Shitchan hates me.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 5:08

the FOSS economic model does not favour good well-documented software as popularly claimed. What it does favour is buggy, constantly evolving software that needs support and gets dropped as people lose interest.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 6:23

>>25
jackd is fuck hot

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 9:14

>>27

Try actually using OS X for some length of time to do audio work, and then tell me again that Alsa is worth a damn. It isn't. There's just no comparison.

It's annoying too, because I hate OS X in general.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 11:46

>>30
ALSA gets better latencies than I care to test for, and my hardware has proven to be the bottleneck in the absence of heavy synthesis or plugin use. Beyond that, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 17:04

>>31
Clearly not. Much like most freetards who think their piece of shit is actually usable.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 19:26

>>32
Please, feel free to explain what's wrong with it. So far I've heard bogus complaints about its latencies.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 20:57

>>1
The quality of a software is a far less serious concern than the principles of its license. This is the pure, uncensored truth that enjoys being told.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 21:34

ALSA? CoreAudio? you idiots seriously use that shit instead of OSS?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 21:42

>>35
It doesn't matter how efficient it is, OSS's abstraction is outmoded. You heard me.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 22:30

>>33
try opening a web browser. play a youtube video. now open up renoise and connect it through 16 channel soundflower. notice how you can record individual output channels while also playing it through the speakers, while flash is playing, and with midi input, with nearly instant response. while you're at it, configure renoise to sync midi clock to ableton. and while you're at it, have it output simultaneously to a midi synth. so you have an external device playing in exact, perfect sync with renoise/ableton, you're able to record and tweak loops of individual channels while you have multiple audio sources playing.

asio can't do that, because every app hogs all the soundcard output. linux audio sure can't, because trying to sync an external synth with a mixed audio source in linux is an absolute fucking joke.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 22:58

>>37
Now what part of that doesn't work with ALSA? That last paragraph is complete BS, I've done it. The only problem with the first part is finding an Ableton port for Linux.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-06 23:06

renoise
It's pronounced ren waaz

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-06 9:45

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