I recall in the DOS days, many various sound systems struggling to reach dominance. It was much worse than Lunix and you could crash often with the slightest reason.
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Anonymous2010-05-27 4:32
>>8
i have a DOS system here that i use for some old games (most of which have sound)... my current uptime is over 7 years.
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Anonymous2010-05-27 4:52
>>9
way to needlessly consume the world's power resources
>>12
Apples to Oranges.
OpenAL can't stream audio over the network, handle bluetooth gadgets and usb sound cards with zero configuration.
That said I'd like Lennart to fix my volume slider he broke.
>>16
You misunderstand. I wasn't comparing OpenAL to PulseAudio as a product, I was comparing their sins. But you did highlight the problem with OpenAL:
OpenAL can't stream audio over the network
OpenAL can't even use network streamed audio properly. It won't accept a callback, so the only way to manage real time audio with it is to write your own complete sound system that uses OpenAL as a backend (which is probably already using something else as a backend), by stuffing its buffers very carefully.
>>19
I'm stuck with OpenAL, and not Loki's version. If I could pick and choose I wouldn't have any problems here (and I wouldn't have OSS either. We left that shit back in the '90s for a reason.)
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Anonymous2010-05-27 15:06
>>11
name one operating system that dosbox can run on that anyone has managed to have running for over 7 years
>>10
how do you think i've managed to keep it from going down whenever there's a blackout? it's hooked up to a fucking solar panel and a bunch of batteries.
>>22
It still sucked pretty much. I think the biggest problem right now are quirks. For example: every sound card seems to have a different idea of what 0 dbA volume means. PulseAudio assumes it means "maximum volume" and uses for the "composite volume control". Result? My earlobes get raped whenever I set volume above 20%. The developer doesn't give a shit about my bug reports because he's busy implementing support for every new bluetooth gadget he can get his hands on.
OH LOL LUSERS I USE A MAC AND ITS SO COOL AND EVERYTHING JUST WORKS! LOL LOL ITS SO KAWAII AND IM TOTALLY HIPSTER AND HAVE LOADS OF FRIENDS AND I'm LEARNING RUBY! BRB GOING TO GET A DOUBLE MOCCA LATTE
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Anonymous2010-05-27 16:30
>>22
I wish they'd switch back. OSS4 is worlds better than ALSA.
>>23
Try explaining that to the audio expert behind PulseAudio.
You will be surprised how much he can write about the things he WON'T FIX and why he doesn't give a shit about your arguments.
1. He bitches when people (rightly and accurately) complain that his shit is broken (not to mention 'baroque', to put it politely.) For not giving a shit, he sure is a crybaby.
2. His shit gets shipped by various maintainers who should know better.
I don't care if PulseAudio is broken, what bothers me is that I'm expected to use it.
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Anonymous2010-05-27 18:26
>>36
Stop being a faggot and bitch to him about it.
>>36
Who "expects" you to use it? Any reasonable Linux distro doesn't have that garbage shipped. Ubuntu is not reasonable.
By the way, try installing OSS4Free. Fantastic audio system. Better audio quality than ALSA, low latency, and a vastly better documentation and simpler API. Really - you can't make it any easier than open() and read()/write(), and some ioctl()s to set up.