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Fucking X86

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 6:11

seriously why the fuck is X86 so fucking terrible! it has like a million instruction of which 1/10 are used and all the other ones are either, useless, fucking uncomprehendable, or just so goddamn slow that nobody uses them. seriously most of the functionalty could be implemented if you just combine the simple ops, but no intel had to add instructions that combine like 10 of these so that every single reference on the net looks like invalid perl code. is there anyone on the planet that actualy knows what half of the mnemonics mean? i mean goddamnit i mean just look at some halfway full refrence, what the fuck? what kind of people do they hire at intel? and what do these whackos fucking take? i could take LSD for 50 persons and still wouldnt be so high that i could do such crap? and what the hell is with all those these weird registers? who the fuck uses 3dnow! anyways?
goddamnit i had it with intel and X86!

is PPC any better? what is do you use /prog/?
and where can i find some good PPC asm tuts, i would really like to know more about POWER arch.

GodamnitFuckingCrapOfChrist
i fucking hate this shit X86

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 6:12

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 6:28

[QUOTE]1/10 are used and all the other ones are either, useless, fucking uncomprehendable, or just so goddamn slow that nobody uses them[/QUOTE]
Then don't use them.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 6:30

>>3
NICE QUOTING THERE BUDDY

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 6:32

RISC IS SUPERIOR CORE

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 6:35

>>4
Thanks!

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 6:35

>>2
hey thanks dude

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 6:39

Now I can't sleep knowing that my machine runs on an x86-family processor.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 6:46

>>8
Don't cry, i'll buy you an iPad.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 6:51

>>9
iPad
NO THANK YOU

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 7:42

>>9
iPad
Oh, and in exchange you're going to ask me to do some gay thing for you, right? No, thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 8:28

seriously why the fuck is X86 so fucking terrible
It's not.  It's by far the cheapest way to afford a fast computer.  Can you afford POWER7?

it has like a million instruction of which 1/10 are used and all the other ones are either, useless, fucking uncomprehendable, or just so goddamn slow that nobody uses them.
The unused instructions don't matter.  The rare ones are implemented in microcode anyway.

>seriously most of the functionalty could be implemented if you just combine the simple ops, but no intel had to add instructions that combine like 10 of these so that every single reference on the net looks like invalid perl code.
Sounds like you're just too dumb to understand x86 assembly.  Stick with C.

>is there anyone on the planet that actualy knows what half of the mnemonics mean?
My C compiler knows enough to make high-performance output.

>and what the hell is with all those these weird registers? who the fuck uses 3dnow! anyways?
3DNow! is AMD's "innovation".  However, SSE are used quite a bit, with SSE2 replacing the x87 FPU instructions for floating point math in x86-64.
goddamnit i had it with intel and X86!

>is PPC any better? what is do you use /prog/?
>and where can i find some good PPC asm tuts, i would really like to know more about POWER arch.

It's clear that you don't have a job, so you won't be able to afford a high-performance POWER machine.  Just stick with x86 and C.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 8:50

>>12
It's clear that you don't have a job, so you won't be able to afford a high-performance POWER machine.  Just stick with x86 and C.

is it that fucking expensive?

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 8:56

>>11
What gay thing! Steve Jobs is not an queer! Though he his a bit crazy in the head though!

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 9:03

Sounds like you're just too dumb to understand x86 assembly.  Stick with C.
Holy shit, 1337 |-|4><><0|2 itt! Runaway!
SSE2 replacing the x87 FPU instructions for floating point math in x86-64.
It shouldn't. Because the first `S' in SSEx means ``Streaming''. Because all these extensions were designed to do precisely one specific sort of tasks: to process large amounts of monotonious data - unlike FPU.
Moreover, to be honest, SSEx is an enormous fail. People back in those days were naive enough to think that general purpose CPU would suffice to do all that streaming data processing.
They were wrong, as we all can see. When did you see the last software renderer which wasn't SLOW AS FUCK. Or even was, it doesn't really matter. And why are we so worried about GPU-accelerated video decoding now?
So in the end we have nothing but useless silicon and wasted time.
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Oh, traditional GPU architecture sucks even more. Unified shader architecture is probably the only good innovation in the whole area for the last 10-20 years.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 9:37

>>15
No, SSE2 provides a complete replacement for IEEE 754 double-precision FP.  It is the default floating point instruction set on x86-64 and Mac OS X.  One not need use multiple data per SSE instruction (the second S in SSE is SIMD, or Single Instruction Multiple Data).
And SSE accelerates mathematical computations that can be effectively vectorized - much more than just graphics.  Scientific computing and data mining are two examples.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 9:41

>>14
the iGerbil up his anus begs to differ

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 10:32

Learn ARM or MIPS assembly. RISC architecture is so much better, more parallel pipelining, more registers. This is an outstanding free book on MIPS assembly:
http://notes.ump.edu.my/fkee/e-Books/Computer%20and%20embedded%20system/MIPS%20Assembly%20Language%20Programming%202003%20Prentice-Hall.pdf

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 10:46

>>16
And SSE accelerates mathematical computations that can be effectively vectorized - much more than just graphics.  Scientific computing and data mining are two examples.
And CUDA accelerates mathematical computations that can be effectively vectorized - much more than just graphics.  Scientific computing and data mining are two examples.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 12:37

Is this a /g/ raid?

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 13:18

>>20
does this look like a desktrap or loli thread to you?

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 13:26

Still nobody answered me, is a PPC based computer so expensive?
old macs dont count, they are not computers they are fashion articles.

and where could i buy one if i had the money?

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 13:29

>>22
They're worthless as well as expensive, so it's hardly an issue.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 13:31

>>22
fashion articles
Apple made computers before 2002, you know.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 13:51

>>23
ARM are only good for mobile devices i herd, is that true? i was refering to buying a desktop computer actualy.

and besides PPC has as far as i herd up to 5GHZ, where else could i find such perfomance, or rather said which arch could i use that could deliver that?

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 13:59

>>25
You can't compare hertz like that.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 14:01

>>27
i know, should have used flops, but i dont know about how many flops they use.
or is there any more exact way to measure performance of procesors?

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 14:02

>>25
5GHz is nothing. My 450nm laser operates at just over 700THz.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 14:05

>>26
well, how much is expensive aproximatly?

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 14:06

>>28
You shouldn't use flops either, unless you're doing science. Since masturbating and playing videogames is not science (sorry) you'll have to use Dhrystone instead.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 14:13

>>30
A bit of googling would have told you a workstation will cost you about $4,000.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 14:15

>>29
[b][u]MY ANUS OPERATES AT OVER 9000PHz

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 14:34

>>33
Enjoy your gamma-raynus.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 14:44

>>26
You can get an eight-core POWER7 system starting at $34,152.  You can get two or three well-specced 48-core AMD systems for that price.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 17:04

>>35
But you'd have to use the terrible x86 instruction set!

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 22:09

Trying to understand x86/IA32 without knowing about x85/80 first is like learning C++ without knowing C.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 22:13

>>18
Silly Anonymous, MIPS are for kids.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-07 23:59

>>37
Trying to understand x86 or x86-64 is a waste of time unless you are writing a compiler

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-08 1:26

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-08 7:49

x86 is fine, but you won't understand it without understanding its history.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-08 9:14

>>41
what the hell is there to undestand? intel developed the 8080 and tried to maintain backwards compatibilaty since then.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-08 10:51

>>42
Which is the entire point.

Name: Anonymous 2011-01-31 21:01

<-- check em dubz

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