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What Now /prog/?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-22 12:21

Visual F#

F# is a programming language that provides support for functional programming in addition to traditional object-oriented and imperative (procedural) programming.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd233154.aspx

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-22 12:25

.NET do not want

sorry for the /b/ speak, but i could not think of anything else.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-22 12:31

I bet those M$ devs are just browsing /prog/ and realizing we love our Lambdas

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-22 12:48

If I ever wanted to write some O'Caml and need to use .NET as well, I'll take it into consideration over C#. It's a good idea, but I haven't had the need to use it yet.

CL/C/x86 asm is what I use on a day to day basis. C# once in a rare while. I've learned ML/Caml before, although I can't claim to know the OO part of O'Caml.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-22 13:18

I've learned ML/Caml before, although I can't claim to know the OO part of O'Caml.
Nobody uses the OO part of OCamL.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-22 23:10

``Now''?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-22 23:30

>>1
Nobody is up in arms over, notably impressed by or particularly unimpressed by F#. It's the lowest-profile move MS could possibly make. It's not a bad one, of course.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 2:43

>>4

ASM FTW!

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 3:03

>>8
x86 ASM FTL!

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 4:07

>>3
M$

Back to /g/, please

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 4:20

>>9
Very common architecture, good price/performace ratio, rich instruction set(double edged sword, but hey, at least it makes it easier for those that write ASM).

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 7:00

>>11
it's only common because intel flooded the market with cheap chips to try to eliminate any competition.
the price/performance ratio isn't really that great any more, you can do much better with ARM.
and "rich" is not the word i'd use to describe it. words like "register poor" and "needlessly complex" come to mind.
also, x86 chips are notoriously power-hungry.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 7:06

ARM has good power/speed ratio but it doesnt scales up

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 7:21

>>13
it scales up just fine... one of these with 4 cores > any x86:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A9_MPCore

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 7:39

I wonder how does the Cell/POWER Arch compare.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 7:49

>>15
It's the traditional RISC AFAIK.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 16:34

>>12
Please point me to an in-proudction ARM chip that can compete with the Intel Atom in single core performance, let alone a 3.0 GHz Westmere core.

>>14
Uh, what?  The single test I've seen of an A9 system showed it performing slower than a single core Atom.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 17:08

>>14,17
You're both retarded. >>14 is just full of shit and >>17 should know better than to make general comparisons between multicore and single core operation.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 17:10

F# is the note made by my anus

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 17:51

>>17
for about the same price as you power-sucking single-core atom, i can get two quad-core A9s.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 18:12

Requesting full comparison between the two products mentioned in >>20.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 18:26

>>18
I am making comparisons between single core operation and single core operation, dipshit

>>20
link to online store or STFU

>>21
it doesn't exist, because ARM is FUD

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 18:47

>>22
Oh okay, thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 19:36

>>22
I am making comparisons between single core operation and single core operation, dipshit
That's much worse. Look, at least be fair and cut the Atom into quarters. Now you're just as bad as >>14.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 21:34

>>24
THAT'S MY ANUS

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 21:53

>>24
But by definition, atoms are indivisible!

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-23 22:23

>>26
Your joke is stupid. Even in physics 'atom' is a misnomer. And I have a hammer and a healthy disrespect for Intel.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 9:11

>>27
Your face is stupid. Learn Greek.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 9:50

>>28
Your Greek is stupid. Learn Latin.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 9:55

>>29
Your latin is stupid. Read SICP

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 11:29

Yeah, we'll pair some quad-core ARM with an amazing SGX545 graphics chip. At that point, Quake3 will run at about 60 fps at 1024x768, that is, about as fast as it ran on my PC from 2001.

Yes, they're cheap and very energy efficient. But please don't even pretend they come close to the performance of current desktop chips. Because they do not. If all you have an 480x270 screen and run a single application at a time on 128MB of memory, then sure, it'll be adequate. But that's about it.

P.S. I hate Intel and x86 as much as the next guy, but let's be realistic here performance-wise.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 11:42

>>31
These trolls are getting weaker and weaker.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 11:53

>>32
Hey, I still troll as hard as ever.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 21:21

>>31
this thing can run quake3 better than that, and it has a dual-core processor:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_tablet

just because your crappy iphone is still using ARM chips that would have been considered modern 8 years ago, don't assume that's the best there is now.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 21:52

>>34
The day I can buy an ARM-based desktop computer at the same price and comparable performance to its Intel counterpart will be a happy day in my life. Probably never.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 22:11

>>34
YHBT.

BTW, all Tegra2s are 2-core Cortex A9 MPcore systems, so you can count most of these: http://www.slashgear.com/tags/tegra/

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 22:43

>>34
can it really run Quake 3 better than that?  Hard to tell when it isn't out yet!

>>35
Probably never is probably correct.  One popular comparison made by ARM fanbois compares a 2008/2009 model Atom CPU to a preproduction ARM which is not yet available in mass-produced devices... and Intel Atom is already designed to be slow and cheap - the faster low-power CPUs cost more than an entire netbook.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 22:58

>>37
What if Intel bought ARM licenses and started mass-producing ARMs? Huh? Huh?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 23:13

>>37
What's your problem? Aside from that one troll, who are these ARM fanbois that hold the particular opinion you are attributing?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 23:17

>>38
Intel has licensed and made ARM since they bought StrongARM from Digital in 1998.  They currently use ARM in the XScale network and I/O processors, but sold their PXA handheld line to Marvell in 2006.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 23:17

>>39
try Slashdot

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 23:18

>>41
and OSNews

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-24 23:44

>>41,42
Oh great. The implication is we have Slashdot and OSNews posters in /prog/. At least one each. Why don't you take it up with /g/ instead of /prog/?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-25 0:10

can it really run Quake 3 better than that?  Hard to tell when it isn't out yet!
i've seen much more complicated 3d graphics than anything in quake 3 running at ~100 fps on a tegra 2.

>>35
why would you want a desktop when you can get a tablet at a lower price and comparable performance to most desktops?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-25 0:25

>>44
Lol, tablet. Hipster Applefag.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-25 0:30

>>45
apparently you haven't bothered to read any of the other posts in this thread, applefag.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-25 3:22

>why would you want a desktop when you can get a tablet at a lower price and comparable performance to most desktops?

Because you can't.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-25 7:23

>>47
Price and performance difference of O(1).

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-25 8:49

>>48
Theres an O(1) difference between the size of a particle and the size of the universe. Big O notation really doesn't have anything to do with fixed point comparisons though and is kind of misleading.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-25 8:53

>>49
There's an O(1) difference between your sense of humour.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-25 10:47

>>50
Between my sense of humour and what?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-25 11:58

>>51
Between your sense of humour and .*

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