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Haskell camelCase

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 14:28

Haskell has support for function_names_with_underscores. Why the fuck do people use PIG DISGUSTING camelCase?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 14:32

Underscore_is_pig_disgusting_as_well.-Hyphens-can-be-nice,-but-a-real-language-would-support-symbols containing spaces.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 14:44

>>2
So.... Inform 7?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 14:48

Like this?

PHP: ${"this is a variable"} = 5;
Python: locals()["this is a variable"] = 5

For Haskell I use über-cool this'is'a'variable = 5

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 14:57

>>2
Allowing symbols with spaces would make the language a nightmare to parse, both by programmer and compiler.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 15:02

>>1
fuck off troll

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 15:10

>>2,5
What about the lisp/scheme solution of using ||s to delimit symbols?
$ ikarus
Ikarus Scheme version 0.0.4-rc1+ (revision 1870, build 2010-03-23)
Copyright (c) 2006-2009 Abdulaziz Ghuloum

(define |don't mind me and my awesome symbols with spaces| 3)
(* |don't mind me and my awesome symbols with spaces| |don't mind me and my awesome symbols with spaces|)
9

$ sbcl
This is SBCL 1.0.35-1.fc11, an implementation of ANSI Common Lisp.
More information about SBCL is available at <http://www.sbcl.org/>;.

SBCL is free software, provided as is, with absolutely no warranty.
It is mostly in the public domain; some portions are provided under
BSD-style licenses.  See the CREDITS and COPYING files in the
distribution for more information.
* (defconstant |don't mind me and my awesome symbols with spaces| 3)

|don't mind me and my awesome symbols with spaces|
* (* |don't mind me and my awesome symbols with spaces| |don't mind me and my awesome symbols with spaces|)

9
*

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 15:56

>>7
You could do that with Tcl as well, and better.

% set {this is a fuckin' variable name, yo} 5
5
% puts ${this is a fuckin' variable name, yo}
5

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 16:07

I prefer not to be bothered by such trivial matters.
I prefer M-x glasses-mode.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 20:01

i'mNotReallyAFanOfCamelCase

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 20:34

>>10
strLitIReallyKindOfHateHungarianNotationWithAllMyHeart

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 20:55


System::SomeClass::SomeOtherClass::checkIfFileExistsAndDeleteItIfItIsNotPresent(NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL);

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 21:54

>>12
I came

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-14 23:45

>>12
DeleteIt
IfItIs[u]Not[/u]Present

I have reached satori

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 0:04

>>14
You're BBcode failure suggests otherwise.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 0:26

>>15
You're BBcode failure suggests otherwise.
She's BBcode?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 0:52

>>16
No, she's BBcode failure.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 2:20

>>5
No, it would be trivial to parse. Just separate symbols with another character.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 5:06

>>15-17

b_b_code

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 7:05

bump

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 9:16

>>12
DeleteItIfItIsNotPresent
ENTERPRISE methods.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 10:56

>>21
No, you could be more ENTERPRISE

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 11:38

Implying camelCase is unworthy
Oh you!

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 11:43

>>2
I don't see how you would support spaces in symbol names without some kind of delimiter, or greatly crippling the rest of the language (like that double spaces idea that someone once posted here). CL does support both variants:
this-is-a-symbol-name
|this is a symbol name|

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 15:52

>>24
In fact, this could be done very easily, in fact nearly as easily as "normal" variable name handling. Suppose all symbols are stored in an n-way tree in memory, such that each node served both as a value (or possibly undefined), and also as an intermediate point connecting to other values. Parsing an identifier token would consist of fetching a value from the root of the tree, and inserting that node into the AST. Supposing another identifier directly followed this top-level identifier, the node just inserted would then be used as the new "root" for looking up the second word of the variable name, and once this new word is found, the new node would replace the existing one in the AST.

So, The Sussman would actually consist of two separate entries in the symbol tree: one top-level node, created upon first encounter of a The token, with one child node, created upon first encounter of a Sussman token which immediately follows a The token.

I'd toss together some shitty code for an interpreter that could handle this, but I'm a lazy fuck.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 16:09

>>25
Wouldn't that make things a lot more ambigous for human programmers to follow?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 16:13

/prog/ers overload white spaces (http://www2.research.att.com/~bs/whitespace98.pdf)

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 16:18

>>24
Implying double spaces would cripple the language.
That was my idea, and it's still a great one. How in the world would it cripple the rest of the language? Even if for some strange reason, you didn't want to do that, you could introduce a "breaking space" character and use that between symbols.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 16:25

>>27
☎✆(); // take phone (☎) off hook (✆)
This must be a fucking troll.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 16:26

Overloading \\ (double backslash) to mean "everything before this is a comment" has proven another
useful transition tool. It allows old-style and new-style code to coexist:
    my_phone->off_hook(); // \\ ☎✆
wat

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 16:28

>>29
actually overloading \\ (double backslash) to mean "everything before this is a comment) is the preferred solution:

my_phone->off_hook(); // \\ ☎✆

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 16:30

lol'd hard, thanks >>27

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 17:04

>>27
Bjarne Stroustrup
Why am I not suprised? Someone should post this to reddit or something so we can see some deluded Seppler try to justify this.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 17:09

>>33
But it's an April's Fool, isn't it?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 17:10

>>34
With C++, you can never tell.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 17:16

>>27,34,35
Somewhere, a C++ committee member has read this and thought it was a serious, and great, idea. True story.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 17:17

>>35
It said about April's Fool at the end (right after they talked about source code in 3D).

Name: TROLLGOL Dev 2010-04-15 17:23

>>27
I have much to learn

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 18:35

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 18:55

>>39
It exists only in the hearts and minds of /prog/riders

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-15 19:07

>>26
It would be no more ambiguous than underscores.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 2:51

>>40
So its basically in the same state as velox et astrum?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 4:22

camelToe()

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 5:09

>>42
And then TROLLGOL was velox et astrum.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 12:35

/* Hello TROLLGOL 0.0.1 */
#import_Standard Input / Output Header
#import_Standard Library Header

Main_I/O String_I / O Int_::_->
(Define_Main(ArgumentsChar **::)
  (let((Looping Procedure =(Lambda(X_Y_Int-String_::_::)
    (If(X_0_>)
      (Do(Print Function_Y))
      (Do(return X)))))
  In_Looping Procedure_1_"Hello TROLLGOL\\n"))

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 12:58

>>45
You and your proprietary extensions, real trollgol programs look like this
make-fn fact|x|{
    make-fn fact-iter|n,i|{
        if equals i 0 then
            return n
            neth
            else
                call fact-iter (times n i) (subtract i 1) llac
            esle
        fi
    } |i,n|reti-tcaf nf-ekam

    call fact-iter x 0
} |x|tcaf nf-ekam

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 13:27

>>46
ERROR AT LINE 1: EXPECTED ' '
ERROR AT LINE 2: EXPECTED ' '

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 15:14

>>47
Actually, there are two syntax errors, but they are on lines 4 and 12. Here is the same program without syntax errors and in the recommended style
make-fn fact with args x
   body
      make-fn fact-iter with args n i
         body
            if equals i 0 then
               return n nruter
               neth
               else
                  call fact-iter (times n i) (subtract i 1) llac
               esle
            fi
         ydob
      i n reti-tcaf nf-ekam

    call fact-iter x 0 llac
   ydob
x sgra htiw tcaf nf-ekam

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 20:00

>>48
You forgot that TROLLGOL compiler doesn't do TCO automatically yet. This version will be much faster on the latest version:
make-fn fact with args x
   body
      make-fn fact-iter with args n i
         body
            if equals i 0 then
               return n nruter
                  neth
               else
                  #<ifdef __supported_tailcall>
                      tailcall fact-iter (times n i) (subtract i 1) liatllac
                  #<else>
                      call fact-iter (times n i) (subtract i 1) llac
                  #</fedfi>
               esle
            fi
         ydob
      i n reti-tcaf nf-ekam

    #<ifdef __supported_tailcall>
        call fact-iter x 0 llac
    #<else>
        tailcall fact-iter x 0 liatllac
    #</fedfi>
   ydob
x sgra htiw tcaf nf-ekam

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 20:01

>>49
On the latest version of TROLLGOL compiler, of course.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 20:14

How are you guys omitting all of the parentheses? Is this some kind of FIOC?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 20:33

>>51
If by FIOC you mean The Forced Inversion of Ceywords, then yes.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 21:23

>>52
The Forced Insertion Of Cock

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 21:25

>>49
I know I've seen a spec for this, or something like it at least.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-17 11:07

>>51
Indentation in TROLLGOL is required, but has no meaning.

According to the spec, a TROLLGOL program is only valid if each line has a different amount of indentation than the last line of the enclosing scope.

There is a complier switch to ignore indentation, but it is not recommended.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-17 17:10

Let's put accents on our vowels!
Let's program in Korean too!

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-17 19:17

>>56
(정함 계승 (n)
  (면 (<= n 1)
      1
      (* n (계승 (- n 1)))))

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-17 19:30

>>57
Sexpressy.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-17 19:49

(下子 階乘 (n)
  (如 (<= n 1)
     1
     (* n (階乘 (1- n)))))

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-18 18:11

(leg juice (n)
  (flop (<= n 1)
     1
     (* n (pop! (1- n)))))

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-18 19:45


(デス おはよう (タ路)
  (言う-言葉 "おはよう, ")
  (言う-言葉 タ路)
  (言う-言葉 "くん!\n"))

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-18 19:54

>>61
I just came a little inside.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-18 21:29

>>61
(Good morning death (data path)
  (Say - the word "Morning")
  (Say - word data path)
  (Say - the word "kun! \ N"))

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-18 21:35

>>63
" \ N"
you should feel kind of bad about this

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-18 21:48

>>64
There are a lot of things to feel bad about there, the use of Google Translate in particular.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-19 15:34

>>65
Oh, I'm sorry I did not learn fucking Japanese just to read that post.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-19 16:44

>>66
l2japanese

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-19 17:07

>>67
back to /jp/, please

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-19 17:42

>>66
So what? Google Translate has nothing to do with understanding that post. I understood the ones in Korean(?) without looking them up.

What you need to learn is how to read an S-expression, and Google Tanslate won't help you there.

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Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 4:20

To all people who think that camelCase is not pig digsusting and does not impede reading at all.


DOOMRepercussionsOfEvil

JohnStalvernWaited. TheLightsAboveHimBlinkedAndSparkedOutOfTheAir.
ThereWereDemonsInTheBase.HeDidn'TSeeThem, ButHadExpected
ThemNowForYears. HisWarningsToCernelJosonWereNot ListenendTo
AndNowItWasTooLate.Far TooLateForNow,Anyway.JohnWas A
SpaceMarineForFourteenYears.WhenHeWas YoungHeWatchedThe
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DadSaid"NoYouWill BE_KILL_BY_DEMONS"TheReWasATimeWhenHe
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IMustKillTheDemons"HeShouted TheRadioSaid"No,John.YouAre
TheDemons"AndThenJohnWasAZombie.

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 5:30

i love that poem-thingy way too much to worry about the punctuation ^^

is there more?

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 5:32

>>173
Nope that's a one hit wonder. =_=

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 5:40


DIGIMON SAVEZ THE WROLD!!1111
By Peter Chimaera

CHAPTER ONE:
Chaos in the lab

The wind flowed spraying like into Digimon's face but he was not intrested. The wrold needed to be saved becuse an evil scintist had created a machine that culd destory it! Digimon has a hard time getting into the scientist lair where the man had a gun.
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CHAPTER TWO:
Digimon goes home

But he found that on the way home there was no road. It was too late like the scintist said. He had already destored the road and the people were trapped on the island that they were trapped in.
There was nothing he could do. So he went home and cried.

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 5:47

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 6:04

...almost..
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=The+Lights+Above+Him+Blinked+"there+were+scientists"

4chan BBS - Mat Dickie
dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1249744880/561-600
Dec 10, 2009 - 40 posts - 3 authors
The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were scientists in the base. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for ...

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 6:16

why are programmers so strubborn about trivial inconsequential shit

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 6:58

check em

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 8:19

>>179
What am I supposed to be checking?

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 13:49

Mat Dickie waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were scientists in the base. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to game industry were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
Mat was an artist for fourteen years. When he was young he played the games and he said to dad "I want to be on the game development daddy."
Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY SCIENTISTS"
There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the catholic school he knew there were scientists
"This is artists" the radio crackered. "You must fight the scientists!"
So Mat gotted his art form by the throat and draged it to its apex.
"HE GOING TO REPLACE US" said the scientists
"I will discuss with him" said the cyberscientist and he fired the scientific arguments. Mat deflected at him and tried to deliver innovative concepts that simply cannot be found anywhere else. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to discuss.
"No! I must replace the scientists" he shouted
The radio said "No, Mat. You are the scientists"
And then Mat was a game developer.

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 21:19

n0n3 waited. The screen before him flickered, then flashed blue. There were faceless men in the machine. He couldn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to the computer security industry had long gone ignored, and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
n0n3 had been operating the machines for nearly twelve years. When he was younger he had dream't of men in hoods, faces hidden, and had thought it was about the religious mob. But now he was not so certain. Though in the machine he knew there would be malicious code. Monitoring. Waiting.
For what he wondered..

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 21:59

"It is time", the textboard announced. "You must defeat the system now, before it is too late."
"What's up?", he thought. But the First CyberWorld War had just begun, and the connection to the textboard timed-out. Once again he was disconnected, alone in the world.
n0n3 thought back to times before now, when even the thought of being alone was painful. But now he knew he was not the only one. "Such is fate" he mumbled to himself..

Name: Anonymous 2013-07-13 22:44

Across the information superhighway, ordinary packets went about their usual function, unaware of a small anomalous background activity gently weaving itself through the outer-networks.
Soon it would be on the inside...

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