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Sending mail to RMS

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 6:24

I took the liberty of mailing a link to /prog/ to RMS inviting him to post here. If you want any questions answered by him post them here.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 6:54

If I released my shower under the GNU GPL, would you use it?

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 7:12

>>2
Serious questions only- we don't want to scare him away like the sussman.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 7:28

>>3
Let me prove how serious I am.
If I released my shower under the MIT License UNLESS you used it, would you use it?

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 7:43

>>4
MIT License is Free Software, you should threaten to license it under something like the Aladdin Free Public License.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 8:29

>>1
You do know how RMS aquires web pages?

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 8:55

>>2
What freedoms does the GPL allow me when applied to your shower?
I can make modifications to it, I expect the source code to your shower, and if I somehow change your shower, I must give these modifications to you, unless I only keep them to myself and don't show them to anyone?

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 9:18

>>7
IT allows you the most important freedom of all, to wash in it. You do not, however, have the freedom to use my towels.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 9:33

>>6
A browser?

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 9:43

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 10:41

Dealing with RMS

When dealing with RMS, keep the following things in mind:

    * He has very very little time, so his answers may seem impolite at times.
    * In order to save time, he will sometimes end a discussion with “This decision is final.” He’s just trying to save us all a pointless discussion.
    * In order to help us all focus on the important parts, he may sometimes say that your idea is not bad, but people should rather spend some time on the issues in the TODO list.
    * He reads several hundred mails a day, and probably won’t remember your last mail, so be sure to provide enough context so that each of your mails can be read on its own.
    * He doesn’t have web access, so if you want to refer to some web page, paste the relevant stuff into your email for him to read.
    * He has an auto-reply which will send you a mail every month, telling you about his lack of time. (See below for an excerpt.)
    * He will reply in about 48 hours, since he downloads email only once a day. So, keep in mind that he is currently repyling to your mail sent 2 days ago, and has NOT seen your mail sent 12 hours ago.
    * When he asks you a question and you don’t reply, you will get an automated reminder after two weeks, and another after a month.

General advice:

    * If you think that he should give you some slack since you’re supporting the cause, think again. He has very little time, but he’ll note a breach of the GPL any time, and ask you to back down.
    * If you think that he should offer some support because you’re supporting the cause, think again. He probably doesn’t know your project. You’re free to apply for accounts on gnu.org machines, or using Savannah as an alternative to SourceForge, but he won’t come forth himself and offer it to you.
    * If you’re easily offended by curt answers, or if you disagree with RMS on some points of the GNU licenses, either talk to somebody else, or be prepared to argue your case with the support of lawyers, because RMS has asked lawyers, so the only reply you’ll get is “our lawyers said so and so.”

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 10:48

>>http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#NonFreeSoftwareLicense
AT&T Public License
[..] The license has two other obnoxious features: [...]
It asserts one needs a license from AT&T to make a link to their web site. This is not an immediate practical problem, since the license says it gives permission to make such a link. (Anyway, people shouldn't make links to sites about non-free software.) But such a claim should not be made or propagated.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 10:51

I also found proof that RMS is evil:

The JSON License   This is the license of the original implementation of the JSON data interchange format. This license uses the Expat license as a base, but adds a clause mandating: “The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.” This is a restriction on usage and thus conflicts with freedom 0. The restriction might be unenforcible, but we cannot presume that. Thus, the license is nonfree.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 11:12

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 12:01

>>14
He reminds me of Kimmo.

Except the former has actually managed to be somewhat successful.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 13:39

>>11
Dealing with girls.

When dealing with girls, keep the following things in mind:

  * Promote physical activity as something that’s fun to do. Don’t focus on physical appearance outcomes, and let girls know that health is not defined by body size.
  * While physical activity is an important part of health, being skinny is not. People of a variety of weights and body shapes can be healthy.
  * Avoid assumptions about boys’ and girls’ abilities and about what kinds of activities are right for boys and girls. Promote a wide range of activities for both.
  * Free time is important. Kids need time to just be kids and do activities of their choice.
  * When possible, make physical activity a part of other activities that girls like to do.


General advice:



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Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 13:42

EXPERT POST TRUNCATION by the way.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 13:51

>>16
i dont get it.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 13:53

>>13
Not favouring good over evil does not make one evil, merely neutral.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 13:54

>>13
Well obviously the chinese think western values (such as free speech) are evil. Ergo your wrong bitch.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 13:54

I almost expected at the of the guide to see licensed under terms of GNU free documentation license.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 14:35

>>20
Free Speech isn't a western value, and if you ask most people around you they don't want fully free speech e.g there was a guy in Canada a few months back who IIRC got a prison sentence for writing some pedo fiction. All you are doing is trying to take a potshot at the Chinese, because you are too arrogant to notice the limits of your freedoms.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 14:38

>>22
Oh yeah? Well at least you can criticise the state- that's a whole more than you can in China.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 15:14

>>23
You can criticise the state all you want in China, if you are willing to take the consequences.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 15:23

>>24
And if not?

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 15:29

>>25
Well then you still face the consequences, but you will be even less happy about it.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 15:55

In soviet Russia, consequences face you!

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 4:57

>>26
West > China

Stallman > Sussman

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 5:17

West > China

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 5:43

>>29
Butthurt freedom hating Chinaman, detected!

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 5:48

* Western Europe > Japan/Korea/Taiwan >  Australia > US > Eastern Europe > Middle East > South America > China > India > South Asia > Africa

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 5:59

>>31
s/Australia > US/Good parts of the US (lol) > Australia > Bad parts of the US/

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 7:15


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Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 14:13

>>32
The replacement pattern simplifies to the search pattern... did you fail math or something?

Actually, I agree, but Hawaii doesn't rightfully belong to the US.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 7:19


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