Name: Anonymous 2010-03-11 3:33
Kimmo Alm aka "Sysop" from AnT has been spamming us for YEARS now, and has recently stepped it up. This shit has got to fucking stop. As promised, here are all of the e-mails he has sent me over the years (and my responses).
We've done all we can do about him. We've banned THOUSANDS of proxies, and deleted OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND spam posts. His attacks continue though. I'm out of ideas at this point.
This text contains all of the e-mails Kimmo Alm aka Sysop has sent me. It also contains all of my responses, and a few of the e-mails sent to our host.
It's formatted kind of poorly. If anyone wants to clean this up/HTMLize it so it's easier to read, be my guest. Just e-mail it to me and I'll host it.
See http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Anontalk.com for the backstory. The short of it is Kimmo has been spamming 4chan for YEARS.
We've banned THOUSANDS of IPs, and deleted at least a hundred thousand spam posts at this point.
He spams 4chan to advertise his website, which is really just a haven for pedophiles.
On to the fun stuff! (My comments in '**'s)
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**Here's the first e-mail he ever sent. He later claims he didn't, but that's bullshit (see headers).**
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To: moot@4chan.org
Subject: Why bully loli?
From: "Kimmo Alm" <kimmoa@gmail.com>;
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:31:10 +0100
Message-ID: <tl76l8s88f86cr@kimmoa.bredbandsbolaget.se>">op.tl76l8s88f86cr@kimmoa.bredbandsbolaget.se>;
Why do you bully loli?
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**Why yes, I'd love to exchange links with someone who has been spamming my website for 1.5 years!**
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:41:33 +0100
To: moot@4chan.org
Subject: Link exchange
Reply-To: sysop@anontalk.com
From: "AT Sysop" <m84c092d@gmail.com>;
Wanna exchange permanent links?
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**This is the first real converastion I've ever had with him.**
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To: admin@4chan.org
Subject: Please respond to this test.
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:47:49 +0100
From: "AT Sysop" <sysop@anontalk.com>;
Hello. Please respond to this if you are reading it. We both want to end
attacks and spam on both boards.
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:54:57 -0500
From: moot <moot@4chan.org>;
To: AT Sysop <sysop@anontalk.com>;
Subject: Re: Please respond to this test.
I'm pretty sure any problems you have with 4chan would disappear if you
stopped advertising/"spamming" on 4chan.
On 2/4/10 6:47 PM, AT Sysop wrote:
Hello. Please respond to this if you are reading it. We both want to end
attacks and spam on both boards.
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To: moot <moot@4chan.org>;
Subject: Re: Please respond to this test.
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:17:27 +0100
From: "AT Sysop" <sysop@anontalk.com>;
I'm pretty sure any problems you have with 4chan would disappear if you
stopped advertising/"spamming" on 4chan.
(Apparently, you don't know your own users...)
I did send you several e-mails about this in the past but they apparently
got ignored. I hope that you will read and consider this, in case you
actually never got the old e-mails. Or maybe reconsider it, if you did and
just ignored them.
None of us like each other, obviously, but I still seriously propose that
we set up some sort of mutual link exchange. This would obviously cut down
on any spam to the level of "few trolls trying to stir up a war", and
hopefully, not even that would happen after a while.
I actually used to have a free banner text for 4chan, linking to "/b/"
with a text such as "Tired of using your brains? Relax and enjoy images."
(or something alone those lines). I would be prepared to bring that back,
as well as removing all the banned phrases related to "4chan". In return,
I expect you would put a rotating text or graphical banner (doesn't
matter) on the 4chan boards. It doesn't need to get heavy "weight" or
anything, as long as it sticks around and is permanent.
I really think that this would solve a ton of problems and I frankly
cannot imagine why you would turn this offer down at this point.
Hopefully, you will not. We don't need to like each other. The two boards
obviously serve completely different needs, and I would very happily get
rid of "sloppy" posters who just want to use memes and such. At the same
time, I do recognize that there are people with brains surfing your board,
and nothing stops them from using both.
As I suggested the last time, I'm OK with rather "unflattering" ad texts
such as: "Feeling anal-retentive? Then check out AnonTalk.com!". However,
it would be nice if we could agree on the specifics. I'm prepared to do
this within hours.
Think about it. Nobody (or at least much fewer) would have a reason to
spam/"raid" either board if both link to each other, while agreeing to
disagree.
Excitedly awaiting your response.
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:30:53 -0500
From: moot <moot@4chan.org>;
To: AT Sysop <sysop@anontalk.com>;
Subject: Re: Please respond to this test.
This is the only e-mail I've received from you:
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Why bully loli?
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:31:10 +0100
From: Kimmo Alm <kimmoa@gmail.com>;
To: moot@4chan.org
Why do you bully loli?
-
We don't do any external links, besides paid banner ads. Essentially
you're extorting a text link out of me to stop spamming 4chan?
> Nobody (or at least much fewer) would have a reason to spam/"raid"
either board if both link to each other, while agreeing to disagree.
4channers wouldn't give two shits about AnonTalk if you stopped spamming
4chan. All you've done for the past two years is use spam on 4chan as a
means to advertise your website.
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To: moot <moot@4chan.org>;
Subject: Re: Please respond to this test.
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:35:36 +0100
From: "AT Sysop" <sysop@anontalk.com>;
This is the only e-mail I've received from you:
What the hell? I definitely haven't sent anything related to "bullying
loli", and especially not to you. That must be yet another person
pretending to be me.
I've sent several e-mails such as this one a number of months ago. They
never received any replies.
We don't do any external links, besides paid banner ads. Essentially
you're extorting a text link out of me to stop spamming 4chan?
No, that's not what I'm saying. Did you read the letter?
> Nobody (or at least much fewer) would have a reason to spam/"raid"
either board if both link to each other, while agreeing to disagree.
>
4channers wouldn't give two shits about AnonTalk if you stopped spamming
4chan. All you've done for the past two years is use spam on 4chan as a
means to advertise your website.
Right. You apparently choose to ignore the real issue and assume things in
order to dismiss this very serious proposal.
I really thought that you would see things differently, but apparently
not. In a few days, AT is two years old and it would have been a great
"fresh start" to not have any chantards constantly coming there to scream
and post junk due to "spam" in threads.
You think advertising is free on AT? It's not. I was (and still am, but
not for long) prepared to give you a prominent backlink as well, but you
seem completely uninterested in this.
It would be a simple matter of displaying a small link randomly on every
Xth page load across the boards. If you don't already have such a system
in order, which I believe you do, it would be extremely easy to code.
The offer still stands, but this really is the last time I'm going to try
to reason with you. I actually do have better things to do than sending
fruitless e-mails.
(I can make a small custom graphical banner if you want, and you can get a
(static) image banner as well.)
We've done all we can do about him. We've banned THOUSANDS of proxies, and deleted OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND spam posts. His attacks continue though. I'm out of ideas at this point.
This text contains all of the e-mails Kimmo Alm aka Sysop has sent me. It also contains all of my responses, and a few of the e-mails sent to our host.
It's formatted kind of poorly. If anyone wants to clean this up/HTMLize it so it's easier to read, be my guest. Just e-mail it to me and I'll host it.
See http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Anontalk.com for the backstory. The short of it is Kimmo has been spamming 4chan for YEARS.
We've banned THOUSANDS of IPs, and deleted at least a hundred thousand spam posts at this point.
He spams 4chan to advertise his website, which is really just a haven for pedophiles.
On to the fun stuff! (My comments in '**'s)
=====================
**Here's the first e-mail he ever sent. He later claims he didn't, but that's bullshit (see headers).**
=====================
To: moot@4chan.org
Subject: Why bully loli?
From: "Kimmo Alm" <kimmoa@gmail.com>;
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:31:10 +0100
Message-ID: <tl76l8s88f86cr@kimmoa.bredbandsbolaget.se>">op.tl76l8s88f86cr@kimmoa.bredbandsbolaget.se>;
Why do you bully loli?
=====================
**Why yes, I'd love to exchange links with someone who has been spamming my website for 1.5 years!**
=====================
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:41:33 +0100
To: moot@4chan.org
Subject: Link exchange
Reply-To: sysop@anontalk.com
From: "AT Sysop" <m84c092d@gmail.com>;
Wanna exchange permanent links?
=====================
**This is the first real converastion I've ever had with him.**
=====================
To: admin@4chan.org
Subject: Please respond to this test.
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:47:49 +0100
From: "AT Sysop" <sysop@anontalk.com>;
Hello. Please respond to this if you are reading it. We both want to end
attacks and spam on both boards.
---
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:54:57 -0500
From: moot <moot@4chan.org>;
To: AT Sysop <sysop@anontalk.com>;
Subject: Re: Please respond to this test.
I'm pretty sure any problems you have with 4chan would disappear if you
stopped advertising/"spamming" on 4chan.
On 2/4/10 6:47 PM, AT Sysop wrote:
Hello. Please respond to this if you are reading it. We both want to end
attacks and spam on both boards.
---
To: moot <moot@4chan.org>;
Subject: Re: Please respond to this test.
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:17:27 +0100
From: "AT Sysop" <sysop@anontalk.com>;
I'm pretty sure any problems you have with 4chan would disappear if you
stopped advertising/"spamming" on 4chan.
(Apparently, you don't know your own users...)
I did send you several e-mails about this in the past but they apparently
got ignored. I hope that you will read and consider this, in case you
actually never got the old e-mails. Or maybe reconsider it, if you did and
just ignored them.
None of us like each other, obviously, but I still seriously propose that
we set up some sort of mutual link exchange. This would obviously cut down
on any spam to the level of "few trolls trying to stir up a war", and
hopefully, not even that would happen after a while.
I actually used to have a free banner text for 4chan, linking to "/b/"
with a text such as "Tired of using your brains? Relax and enjoy images."
(or something alone those lines). I would be prepared to bring that back,
as well as removing all the banned phrases related to "4chan". In return,
I expect you would put a rotating text or graphical banner (doesn't
matter) on the 4chan boards. It doesn't need to get heavy "weight" or
anything, as long as it sticks around and is permanent.
I really think that this would solve a ton of problems and I frankly
cannot imagine why you would turn this offer down at this point.
Hopefully, you will not. We don't need to like each other. The two boards
obviously serve completely different needs, and I would very happily get
rid of "sloppy" posters who just want to use memes and such. At the same
time, I do recognize that there are people with brains surfing your board,
and nothing stops them from using both.
As I suggested the last time, I'm OK with rather "unflattering" ad texts
such as: "Feeling anal-retentive? Then check out AnonTalk.com!". However,
it would be nice if we could agree on the specifics. I'm prepared to do
this within hours.
Think about it. Nobody (or at least much fewer) would have a reason to
spam/"raid" either board if both link to each other, while agreeing to
disagree.
Excitedly awaiting your response.
---
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:30:53 -0500
From: moot <moot@4chan.org>;
To: AT Sysop <sysop@anontalk.com>;
Subject: Re: Please respond to this test.
This is the only e-mail I've received from you:
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Why bully loli?
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:31:10 +0100
From: Kimmo Alm <kimmoa@gmail.com>;
To: moot@4chan.org
Why do you bully loli?
-
We don't do any external links, besides paid banner ads. Essentially
you're extorting a text link out of me to stop spamming 4chan?
> Nobody (or at least much fewer) would have a reason to spam/"raid"
either board if both link to each other, while agreeing to disagree.
4channers wouldn't give two shits about AnonTalk if you stopped spamming
4chan. All you've done for the past two years is use spam on 4chan as a
means to advertise your website.
---
To: moot <moot@4chan.org>;
Subject: Re: Please respond to this test.
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:35:36 +0100
From: "AT Sysop" <sysop@anontalk.com>;
This is the only e-mail I've received from you:
What the hell? I definitely haven't sent anything related to "bullying
loli", and especially not to you. That must be yet another person
pretending to be me.
I've sent several e-mails such as this one a number of months ago. They
never received any replies.
We don't do any external links, besides paid banner ads. Essentially
you're extorting a text link out of me to stop spamming 4chan?
No, that's not what I'm saying. Did you read the letter?
> Nobody (or at least much fewer) would have a reason to spam/"raid"
either board if both link to each other, while agreeing to disagree.
>
4channers wouldn't give two shits about AnonTalk if you stopped spamming
4chan. All you've done for the past two years is use spam on 4chan as a
means to advertise your website.
Right. You apparently choose to ignore the real issue and assume things in
order to dismiss this very serious proposal.
I really thought that you would see things differently, but apparently
not. In a few days, AT is two years old and it would have been a great
"fresh start" to not have any chantards constantly coming there to scream
and post junk due to "spam" in threads.
You think advertising is free on AT? It's not. I was (and still am, but
not for long) prepared to give you a prominent backlink as well, but you
seem completely uninterested in this.
It would be a simple matter of displaying a small link randomly on every
Xth page load across the boards. If you don't already have such a system
in order, which I believe you do, it would be extremely easy to code.
The offer still stands, but this really is the last time I'm going to try
to reason with you. I actually do have better things to do than sending
fruitless e-mails.
(I can make a small custom graphical banner if you want, and you can get a
(static) image banner as well.)