And by no choice I mean that i don't willingly write in either of those languages. What I don't mean is that i am being forced to not use either of those languages. Isn't going to school for CS kinda like being forced to use a certain language? I was reading this MIT Grad Assgnment and they have to use scheme. I think they're redesigning the wheel. 4tran worked for what, um 60 years. yeah so, python will work for another 60? cool...