Holy shit people do hire lisp programmers

I was surfing a website and i saw this:  http://www.startuphire.com/search/details.php?job=73896

Since its a well known fact that LISP weenies don't shower, I think DIRTY JOBS should do a show about that company.  "YEA WE GIVE GAS MASKS TO ALL EMPLOYEES, LOL1"  But its made up for by the fact that LISP code is a hot mess to maintain and takes 10 times longer to code, thus being the language of choice for bureaucracies everywhere.

I would like to congratulate you on a fine job of trolling, I was offended just by your capitalisation.

Minimum of 5 years industry experience writing software professionally in Lisp programming language
Emacs experience
Excellent verbal and presentation skills
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Minimum of 5 years industry experience writing software professionally in Lisp
Eligible applicants (worldwide): 0

Minimum of 5 years industry experience writing software professionally in Google's GO programming language.
They may as well ask for this instead. ┐(´ー｀)┌ They're both just as likely.

>>4
I consider arc to be a professional project.

>>5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8OYX_3YnMI

>>6
is it paid work?
i can't imagine Paul Graham ever doing any real work.

PAY MY ANUS

- Port LISP scripter system to Java/C environment (long term)
So they want to hire someone to port an older Lisp program to Java, so they could fire you and hire someone more ENTERPRISE to maintain it. In other words, they want to hire a Lisper to write Java code, which is a somewhat known trick. No thanks, enjoy your Lisp code!

Emacs experience? WTF? They force you to use Emacs?

"I'm sorry, but you skill-set does not match what we're looking for because YOU'RE A FUCKING VI USER. NOW GTFO BEFORE I CALL SECURITY."

>>11
Surely there is a vi-mode for emacs...

>>12
But why would an employer care about what editor you use? It's not like the choice of editor influences the code in anyway.

It's like saying "Preferring Pepsi over Coke is is a plus.". Sure it's not discrimination, but it doesn't help the company select a better candidate at all. It just makes everyone who read the job posting go "WTF" and then ignore the company because the HR department is obviously retarded.

>>12
There's at least two : VIE mode and VIPER mode (and I suppose you could use vi in M-x term

>>13
It does make some sense. Here are some points to consider:
1)Maybe they have some elisp scripts that need working on, and their engineers need help with them?
2)Using vi for Lisp programming is usually looked down upon by other Lispers. Emacs is one of the few environments which support the interactive development style which goes with Lisp. Using vi is possible, but you'll waste time which could be better spent writing useful code. (I have nothing against vi, and I think it's fine for writing C code, but the development process for Lisp code is fairly interactive, which means the editor must be able to integrate well with the implementation (be able to query it for information, compile new functions at the user's choice, do interactive testing of the live image, locate symbols, and so on. The editor should also be capable of auto-indenting the code and some form of auto-complete based on the symbols present in the running image is also preferred - while it's possible to use vi for development, it's far from ideal, compared to the alternatives). The request is a bit strange since they want the user to write Java, not Lisp.

>>13
http://www.xach.com/img/lisp-and-vim.png
http://xach.livejournal.com/90933.html

>>15
>>16
You guys have a good point.
Mastery at Emacs implies mastery of Emacs Lisp.
Mastery of Emacs Lisp implies mastery of other Lisp dialects.

But "Emacs experience is a plus." is a pretty roundabout way of saying "We want Lisp experts".

>>8
I consider soul-searching to be a real work.
There's a reason they are called essays and not blog posts.

>>13
Except that Pepsi and Coke are largely the same: they both mean you're fat and unhealthy. Emacs and vi are significantly different, especially when it comes to working with Lisp code. I can see why they wouldn't want someone who intentionally does the most basic things in the hardest way possible. Plus, Emacs experience is a sign that you're a legitimate Lisper, since it's not like you can actually get anything done without it. Someone who claims to have Lisp experience but doesn't have Emacs experience is lying.

you're fat and unhealthy. Emacs and vi are significantly different

No

>>19
[citation needed]

>>21
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IMG_0269.JPG

>>22
What about you're penis?

>>19
There are some rudimentary SLIME-like replacements for vi, but they're far from what Emacs can offer. I do hear some people actually use them, however I just think they're masochists, that doesn't mean they're not real Lispers. In the distant past people had to use punch cards, and the less distant past they just used remote terminals over slow lines. Those people had no other choice, and they still got work done, which means it's a possibility that someone learned Lisp in similar conditions, but why would they refuse a real Lisp environment if they had the option nowadays?

>>18
s/essays/garbage/;
fixed.

vim and drscheme