/prog/ - Is there money in web development?

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-27 13:27

/prog/
I'm currently working on an arts degree and failing hard. None of this shit interests me. I miss at least 25% of my classes. I think I've already dashed my hopes of becoming a teacher (what I want most).

I'm good with PHP, JavaScript and CSS. Can I make a living off that if/when my current plans fall through? My IT education is 100% informal. I have no payed experience.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-27 17:28

>>15 ナルポ

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-27 17:35

>>16
lol i googled

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-27 17:43

>>11
Not Jeff, Kenneth

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-27 19:07

>>13
MDickie

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-29 1:36

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-29 2:11

arts degree and failing hard
lol.
if you can't succeed in that then there's no chance of you succeeding in IT (or anything else for that matter).

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-29 2:31

>>15
Matthew->Jeff

Name: MDickie 2009-10-29 4:48

the pleasure of being Mat Dickie

Name: Mat Dickiehole 2009-10-29 9:21

The pleasure of deep-dicking anybody who ever tried to play my games

*grabs dickie*

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-29 9:37

>>15
segfault

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-29 10:21

>>25
I think you'll find >>16-san already made that joke, albeit in gook speak

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-30 1:55

STILL SEEKING FURTHER ON-TOPIC REPLIES.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-30 8:42

>>27
Then you've come to the wrong place. Or perhaps I should say, you came to the wrong domain.

Dear moot, thanks for /prog/ - programming. Actually, that's a terrible way to start, /prog/ is not really about programming, in the same sense that geometry is not really about measuring dildos then sticking them up your ass to pleasure yourself.

What were you talking about again OP? Sorry, we have Attention Deficit Disorder.

Name: щ(ﾟДﾟщ) 2009-10-30 20:54

щ(ﾟДﾟщ)

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-30 21:03

>>28
couldn't have said it better myself

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-31 0:53

>>27
All the on-topic replies you required were made in >>8.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-31 2:46

>>28
I lol'd.

Name: ForcedMeme !IsAMEmE6C2 2009-10-31 13:17

I'm Jeff, but not that Jeff.

I'm a professional web developer--I don't really touch "design" at all, but focus on databases and application logic. I make $90K a year, with a degree in English & music, working from home. If I had a technical degree I'm sure I'd be doing better, ditto if I had been willing to get into management.

I can't imagine I'd be doing that well if I were freelancing--I work for a company that makes healthcare-related software, with huge state-level contracts, hospital deployments, etc.

Feel free to ask real questions and I'll do my best to answer, I'm not in a trolling mood.

Name: ForcedMeme !IsAMEmE6C2 2009-10-31 13:22

I'll just throw in a couple of other observations:

PHP, JavaScript and CSS

That's not enough. You need to be EXPERT in these three, and I'd highly recommend you learn another web programming language & framework. ASP.NET is not a bad idea (particularly with C#). I would think mod_python or mod_perl could help in some circles.

Learn one of the big Javascript frameworks and use it--it'll raise your productivity.

Most of all: learn databases. MySQL, MSSQL, postgressql, Oracle--pick one and learn it as well as you can. A lot of your skills will translate from one DB to another, esp. as a designer (maybe not as much for admin types).

If you're failing at arts, but like programming, why don't you switch? So what if it takes another year or more...if you don't like what you're studying *and* it won't make you money, what's the point?

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-31 18:35

Please refrain from posting non-programming related material.

Thank you.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-02 0:34

>>33

Thanks for that. How did you get your job?

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-02 0:46

>>33
The process of obtaining job is explained in >>28

Name: ForcedMeme !IsAMEmE6C2 2009-11-02 23:14

>>36
My experience getting a job probably won't help you much, but FWIW: I got a temp job doing data entry. I thought it was going to be a shit job I would only have a month or two, but the sysadmins on staff were receptive to me helping people in the office with their comp problems. During this time I was seriously studying programming on my own time. An opportunity arose where the sysadmins needed a custom web app written, and I took the initiative to write up a prototype, which I showed them the next day. All of a sudden I was hired on permanently, doing some monkey admin work and some programming work. A year later when I was looking for a job in a new city, I was able to market myself as a web programmer with experience, and from then on I've been doing it full time (about 10 years now).

Like I said, that approach is not one I'd advise--it was luck, and I just took the initiative to take advantage of the opportunity.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-03 9:06

im a web programmer, making 88k a year. we're using .NET, but im sure you could do fine with PHP and local govt intranets.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-08 6:16

>mod_python

hurf

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-20 16:32

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Name: Anonymous 2011-01-31 20:27

<-- check em dubz

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-04 14:01

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-08 15:27

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-01 21:07

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