When will Paul Graham stop trolling?

The first publicly released version of Arc was made available on Tuesday, 29 January 2008^[10]. The release comes in the form of a .tar archive, containing the mzscheme source code for Arc. A tutorial and a discussion forum are also available. The forum is copied from news.ycombinator.com and is written itself in Arc.

The initial version has caused some controversy, notably by only supporting the ASCII character set, and by shipping with a built-in web application library that bases its layout on HTML tables. This, combined with the hype surrounding Arc and its generally slow development pace, has gathered some unfavorable comments.^[11]

PG will stop trolling when people stop recognising his words as troll.

He's not a troll, just a dumb-fuck, like Kent Beck.

Just another shitty version of a shitty language.

Old.

I'm not a huge fan of Arc, I prefer plain CL myself, and don't really have a need for heavily stripped down CL with an abbreviated syntax and a single namespace, however I do think P.G. is responsible for bringing many new people to Lisp, and that's a good thing.

Just a few questions:
- What's wrong with providing only tarballed archives of official releases? Writing a programming language is not the sort of endeavor where you want people to grab nightlies and send patches against them.
- Also, what's wrong with a slow pace? Once again, this is a programming language, not a program. You can't expect frequent releases, when it's a given that a new release will break some code in the wild.
- Why would we want foreigners programming? There are enough jobs going to India already.
- The holy crusade against tables in HTML was not about web standards, but about maintainability. A framework give you this - who cares about the implementation details, so long as they work?

Old.
So is scheme.

>>6
The holy crusade against tables in HTML was not about web standards, but about maintainability.
And accessibility, and performance, and so on..

0/10

>>7
I didn't mean it like that. Arc is a new language, but this post is talking about it like P.G. has just done it now, even if it's not that recent.

Lisp is much older than that, Scheme is much older, CL is much older.

>>8
The holy crusade against tables in HTML was not about web standards, but about maintainability.
performance

IHBT

>>10
Yes, yes you have.

>>5
He's the Timothy Leary of Lisp

>>12
Timothy Leary
RAGE

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