Return Styles: Pseud0ch, Terminal, Valhalla, NES, Geocities, Blue Moon. Entire thread

Is there no end to RMS's trolling?

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 21:10

http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Sep-10.html

I hope that I can last more on this foundation than I lasted at the FSF, where I was removed by RMS after refusing to be an active part of the campaign to rename Linux as GNU/Linux.

RMS Marx Stalin, you never cease to amaze me.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 21:19

>>1
It never ceases to amaze me just how much of a Microsoft Fanboy image Miguel portrays, but there you go.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 21:32

>>1
RMS isn't asking people to rename Linux. He's asking people to stop calling the GNU/Linux system as Linux.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 21:39

>>3
While that would be technically correct (AKA the best kind of correct), nobody gives a shit. That would complicate any conversation that occurs between individuals about Linux. Being a pain in the ass to talk about (as it generally is, but that's another discussion entirely) is not going to make it gain any more traction.

Language changes, deal with it. If I have to sit there and listen to morons call copyright infringement "piracy," I'll be damned if RMS Marx Stalin complains about something as minor as the GNU/Linux distinction.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 21:45

I bet RMS would support
www.thinkb4youspeak.com/

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 21:47

>>4
that would be technically correct
Not at all.  None of the systems in question contain only GNU and Linux.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 21:49

>>4
Language changes over time because people are idiots that like to create new meanings from existing words. I'd be speaking either olde english or latin today if I had my way.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 21:50

>>6
GNU/Linux is the operating system. Anything else are additions to the operating system.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 21:53

>>7
No, dumbass. Most changes over time involve pronunciation and spelling, not semantics. See, for example, the evolution of the word "mother".

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 21:55

He probably got yelled at for saying "Linux" to Rimmis at a lunch or something.

I prefer RMS over Microsoft

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 22:06

Why would we call it GNU/Linux?
It was written by Linux Tarballs, wasn't it? RMS is yet again just trying to take credit for something he had nothing to do with just like his whole viral licensing thing.
( ≖‿≖)

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 22:09

>>11

Uhh.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 22:12

>>11
RMS is not trying to get credit for Linux. RMS is trying to get credit for the GNU OS. See the following rant

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 22:20

>>13
That's just a copypasta. RMS has never said that. Or, at least, I can't find any instance of him saying that.
I do agree with you, though.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 22:40

>>13
sure sure sure.
GNU/Linux today, RMS/Linux tomorrow.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 22:43

>>15
In response to suggestions that Stallman's renaming efforts stem from egotism or personal pique, Stallman has responded that his interest is not in giving credit to himself, but to the GNU Project: Some people think that it's because I want my ego to be fed. Of course, I'm not asking you to call it "Stallmanix".

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-10 22:51

>>16
Except GNU has always been *his* project, even if other people did the coding.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-11 0:21

>>17
Linus wrote most part of system, he chose name linux and likes it.
RMS didn't write shit (ignore the notepad), chose name GNU. People wrote free code for it.

RMS does not have the right to rename linux to gun/linux.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-11 1:34

>>7
Fuck those. Back to Proto-Indo-European, I say.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-11 1:36

>>19
You are not allowed to talk about Proto-Indo-European on /prog/!!

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-11 4:00

I hate Mono guy, he can go die.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-11 4:20

>>14
First paragraph is /g/, 2nd and 3rd taken from his essays.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-11 5:38

RMS is a beautiful, sexual painting that we must cherish.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-11 5:51

✈ ▌▌

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-11 6:09

>>16

Guess what was Raymond's Cathedral?

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-11 14:06

Root mean square for sinusoid functions can be found by dividing the amplitude by the square root of two.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-11 14:14

le gasp

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-11 14:37

>>26
Did you mean: multiplying them by one half the square root of two?

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-11 14:44

>>28

. . . .now >>26's intention is superpositional.

Name: Anonymous 2010-11-28 7:31

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-03 7:10

>>31 fuck you

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-03 8:02

>>3
Why?
When I say Linux or NTOSKRNL when referring to a user-oriented desktop OS everyone immediately knows what I'm talking about.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-03 9:02

Le Miguel

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-03 9:28

What you’re referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, NVIDIA/GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, NVIDIA plus GNU/Linux. GNU/Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning NVIDIA/GNU/Linux system made useful by the NVIDIA graphics driver and the X.org X11 server.

Many computer users run a modified version of the NVIDIA/GNU/Linux system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of NVIDIA/GNU/Linux which is widely used today is often called “GNU/Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the NVIDIA/GNU/Linux system, developed by NVIDIA Corporation. There really is a GNU/Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.

GNU/Linux is the base system: the part of the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. It is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. GNU/Linux is normally used in combination with the NVIDIA graphics driver: the whole system is basically NVIDIA with GNU/Linux added, or NVIDIA/GNU/Linux. All the so-called “GNU/Linux” distributions are really distributions of NVIDIA/GNU/Linux.

Name: interject.c 2012-10-03 9:47

/*         DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
                   Version 2, December 2004

Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar <sam@hocevar.net>

Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified
copies of this license document, and changing it is allowed as long
as the name is changed.

           DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
  TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR COPYING, DISTRIBUTION AND MODIFICATION

 0. You just DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO. */

#include <stdio.h>

void interject(const char *s) {
    printf("I'd just like to interject for a moment\n\nWhat you're referring to"
           " as %s, is in fact, GNU/%s, or as I've recently taken to calling it"
           ", GNU plus %s. %s is not an operating system unto itself, but rathe"
           "r another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made use"
           "ful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system component"
           "s comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.\n\nMany computer users "
           "run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizi"
           "ng it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which "
           "is widely used today is often called '%s', and many of its users ar"
           "e not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the G"
           "NU Project. There really is a %s, and these people are using it, bu"
           "t it is just a part of the system they use.\n\n%s is the kernel: th"
           "e program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to t"
           "he other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of "
           "an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in"
           " the context of a complete operating system. %s is normally used in"
           " combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is bas"
           "ically GNU with %s added, or GNU/%s. All the so-called '%s' distrib"
           "utions are really distributions of GNU/%s.\n",
           s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s);
}

int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
    if(argc != 2) interject("Linux");
    else interject(argv[1]);
    return 0;
}

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-03 10:15

>>36
e/b/in reddit meme XD

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-03 10:15

>>35
I fucking hate you.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-03 10:21

Operating system is a synonym for kernel. Most companies ship extras with their operating system, to the point where a court of law had to say they aren't "part" of it (see the various Internet Explorer court cases).
If an operating system needs a compiler or text editor or shell before it can be called an operating system, it makes me wonder what rms thought operating systems before the 1960s were.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-03 10:37

>>39
An operating system is the kernel plus a bunch of stuff that makes a computer usable by (and useful for) humans.
They are not synonymous.

Newer Posts
Don't change these.
Name: Email:
Entire Thread Thread List