The Snow Compiler and Runtime are written in C++, and are very lightweight. Currently, it crashes a lot.
Just pointing it out. I have no real opinion of the language yet, and what I pointed out is only implementation related. Language design is another domain in itself.
>>1 unfortunately my current setup is x32 bit, but i'll check it sometime. It definitely has potential.
My verdict:
C/C++ crashes are nothing to be afraid off(most beta programs have them)and they can be fixed.
The real benefit of C/C++ is speed and unlimited optimization level unlike error-proof/safe/VM-behind-your-back language.
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>>1 unffurtoonetely my coorrent setoop is x32 beet, boot i'll check it sumeteeme-a. Bork Bork Bork! It deffeenitely hes putenteeel. Bork Bork Bork!
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C/C++ creshes ere-a nutheeng tu be-a effreeed ooffff(must beta prugrems hefe-a zeem)und zeey cun be-a feexed. Bork Bork Bork!
Zee reel beneffeet ooff C/C++ is speed und unleemited oopteemizeshun lefel unleeke-a irrur-pruuff/seffe-a/FM-beheend-yuoor-beck lungooege-a. Bork Bork Bork!
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Doesn't look like something I would enjoy, but that would clearly make me not the target audience. From a language design perspective, it seems they know what they're after and have a cohesive design vision. I'll have to try it after it has x86-32 compatibility.
Cohesive design vision, yes, but no apparent plan for expanding it until it's powerful enough to be useful, and it doesn't look interesting as a research language.
Any new language should have at least one use case where existing languages are inconvenient and the new language's design would make it a better fit.
As a language with a compiler, being faster than some of the slower interpreters out there is hardly a noteworthy goal. Sure it's faster than Ruby, but is it faster than Cython?
Quite possibly not. 'Everything is a (duck-typed) object' seems to call for dynamic dispatch even for basic operations on arrays and integers.
And 'everything in Snow can be changed', so congratulations, you just ruled out most of the caching that could mitigate this.
The idea of a boilerplate-free compiled language is a bit alluring, though realistically you either just hack something together in shell or Python, or it's big enough that you do want everything wrapped and scoped properly.
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Anonymous2009-08-08 17:26
If I hear "everything is an object" and "simple" one more time, I'm going to catch a wild squirrel and flay it alive.
>>10 Better get used to it,because OOP is pretty much universal and Java's Simplicity-via-Verbosity is viewed as a virtue.
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To be fair, it seems that they have concurrency in mind as a design goal. Very few languages that compile to machine code are designed for concurrency, so it might be quite convenient to use for that problem.
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Anonymous2009-08-08 23:24
FORCED INDENTATION OF RUBY?
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Anonymous2009-08-09 1:51
Only runs on x86-64 architectures and operating systems. There are plans to port it to different architectures, including 32-bit architectures, but at this stage of development, this is not a priority.