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Imagine

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 14:34

How productive /prog/ could be if you all cooperated on software projects.
Sharing headers/tips/code snippets, rewriting and optimizing each others code.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 14:53

What makes you think any of us can program?

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 15:01

We've tried writing software before. It was always in C, and usually involved printfing some current meme before returning EXIT_FAILURE, or two people posted conflicting lines that would never compile.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 15:45

The problem is that more than one person works on one module at the same time, and that this is /prog/, so people will troll. I can't think of any serious /prog/ cooperative coding effort except ANONIX, and we know how that turned out.

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-18 15:46

>>3 tried writing software except you didn't actually planned for it.
1.No concrete goals 2. No shared values 3. No standards.
You have to have a clear picture in your(and everyone's) mind and without a plan your open sores project is pipe dream.


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Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-18 15:54

>>4 No. Allowing one person complete control over a module is stupid.
Everyone should work on one module, until it compiles and executes(in skeleton system work begins on core modules gradually extending functions to periphery) according to previously agreed upon targets/pseudocode/plans. The the entire group moves on second module and process repeats ad infinitum.  Everyone has ability to review the entire code and spot trolling.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 15:57

>>6 No. Modules aren't all multi-file like your ENTERPRISE-LEVEL completely unindented Javascript codewanks. Allowing more than one person to work on a file is retarded.

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-18 16:03

>>7 I call this method "wikicoding"


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Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 16:07

>>8
I call it ´´version control''.

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-18 16:13

>>9 Well, history will show which method will be more successful long-term.
As for now i cannot envision getting productive code out of mostly hostile collaborators without resorting to these methods.
I wonder how would it be if i programmed my game collaboratively(if only /prog/ didn't hate games) with a forum.
I bet i could achieve much much more then >>3

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Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 16:16

>>10
Please lurk before posting.

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-18 16:20

>>11 What are you hinting at?



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Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 16:22

>>10
History has already proven you wrong on several counts.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 16:23

>>12 Please see thread 1247945477.

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-18 16:24

>>13 This ``history' hasn't ended and it definitely didn't include me. 


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Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-18 16:28

>>14 This thread is irrelevant to wikicoding.



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Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 16:30

>>16
Specifically post 14, then. And stop calling it that.

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-18 16:42

>>17 I sometimes interchange this/that,
its how i learned english at first and i'm unlikely relearn it the right way(this isnt important to me).



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Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-18 16:49

>>17 (i'll explain why this interchange happens)
In the sentence "This thread..." i refer to direct object of which i'm thinking. Calling its "That thread..." and referring to thread mentioned there in >>14 seemed kinda awkward and remote(though more "correct", and i would would probably fix that if i was typing a longer post).



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Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 17:01

Why do you never use sage?

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-18 17:17

>>20 I use sage in these circumstances:
1.I want to post in this thread.
2.I want to express disapproval of this thread by not bumping it.
3.I don't intend to post multiple times in this thread.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 18:02

>>21
1. Right. Isn't that a given?
2. You clearly don't understand the intended use of sage.
3. Double-posting without sage is incredibly bad manners.

May I suggest adopting these circumstantial rules instead?

1. I don't really want to post in this thread, but I will anyway, just to see if there's any more life in it.
2. I want to make it known that I don't feel my post is worthy enough to warrant bumping the thread (in case an F5er gets annoyed at me because they thought there was more interesting and useful material to read, instead it was just a crap post that was possibly also a troll).
3. I'm responding to someone who used sage.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 20:52

>>4
Anonix, or anoncoreutils at least, got to slightly over halfway before everyone lost interest.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 20:54

Are you are implying any of you incompetent losers could possibly optimize MY code?

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-18 20:55

>>23
much longer than SatoriSubs anyway, I think I subbed half of 2B then decided ``Fuck It!''

Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-19 0:34

>>22 Cute but idiotic.
>>24 with supervision and control, possibly. At least you will get fresh ideas.


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Name: =+=*=F=R=O=Z=E=N==V=O=I=D=*=+= !frozEn/KIg 2009-07-19 0:40

>>26 ..supervision and control. Hmm, I suppose that could work with my game.



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Name: Anonymous 2010-12-22 6:24

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