Personally I use Emacs just because modal editing seemed too strange to me. Typing 'i' every time I wanted to type something was annoying, so I just learned Emacs instead.
Please be civil in this discussion about programming. If you wish to troll and be rude, try one of the image boards.
I use XKate, the xfce port of Kate, because KDE is PIG DISGUSTING.
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!Da6cBCM2hc2009-06-15 12:25
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Anonymous2009-06-15 17:19
>>34 If you think it's less time consuming than pressing nothing, you're hopeless.
If you think it's time consuming enough to offset the overall editing speed gain, then you probably never bothered to learn to use Vim.
So, what you're saying is that the most effective way to use Vim is to stay in insert mode and avoid its main interface? I agree
No I think that there's nothing stopping you from indulging in your mouse faggotry if you must.
Now fuck you and you're family, you dirty nigger.
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Anonymous2009-06-15 17:35
>>47 the overall editing speed gain
Lolwut. “Switching modes all the time makes me edit faster.”
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Anonymous2009-06-15 17:56
>>48
Yeah, keep holding onto that straw man, nigger. Then shove it up your ass and set it on fire.
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Anonymous2009-06-15 17:57
<- that way to /b/
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Anonymous2009-06-15 19:28
>>49
I notice your utter lack of a counter-argument. Presumably because there's no way in hell that switching modes all the time to access an overcomplicated system of cursor movement that requires counting words and lines to achieve any semblance of efficiency could possibly make you faster.
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Expert Vim User2009-06-15 19:43
>>51
I for one don't use number commands in most cases when they'd be applicable. Instead, I prefer the "text objects" that allow me to select and replace the current word, sentence, paragraph, string, brace pair, etc.; though when I can see at a glance that there are only two to four entities I need to change, I'd rather type c3w than veeec or something like that.
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Anonymous2009-06-15 20:59
>>52
Yes, poor, filthy Vimmers are stuck deciding whether to retype whole sentences or to count how many words until the one they intend to change.
>>53
and stupid EMACSers can't tell the difference between 3 words and 4 words without counting.
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Anonymous2009-06-16 0:04
I really like Vim's movement system. I once decided to leave the editor wars and build my own editor from scratch. One that just had exactly what I needed and none of the bloat. I noticed I was ending up with a Vi clone, so I went back to Vim
Do Vimmers only write in three and four word sentences?
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Anonymous2009-06-16 0:13
>>55 I really like Vim's movement system.
Why in the world?
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Anonymous2009-06-16 0:42
>>57
I don't like reaching out to the mouse, and I'm pretty fast with it
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Anonymous2009-06-16 0:53
After playing nethack for a few years you learn the movement keys pretty well.
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Anonymous2009-06-16 2:19
>>59
I'd hope it wouldn't take that long to know them very well, much less “pretty well”. Or are they just so poorly selected that they're nearly impossible to learn?
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What's hard is that they're splayed all across the keyboard, and I don't want to use two hands in an unnatural arrangement just to operate a cursor.
>>63
But only one of those keys is on the home row.
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Anonymous2009-06-16 4:36
>>66
Guys, I think what we have here is a Dvorak user attempting to legitimize his pointless keyboard layout by pretending that a reasonable person could assume it was the default layout under discussion.
>>72 Every has their favorite editor.
What. You're making no sense.
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Anonymous2009-06-16 11:22
>>72
Please be civil in this discussion about programming. If you wish to troll, sage and be rude, try one of the image boards.
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Anonymous2009-06-16 11:41
>>74
Spoiler: Emacs vs VIM is ancient trolling device. Works since 80's and pretty much everyone on *nix is vulnerable.
The recipe is simple: When one side gains some advantage, trolls switch to the weaker side and flame back.
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Anonymous2009-06-16 11:44
>>70
Sometimes, I also hit the escape key fairly often.:wq
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Anonymous2009-06-16 11:51
When I started using "MULTICS without balls" back in the mid 90's the SunOS machine I was using had VI, so I learned to use it. I've found that most machines I've used since have VI, and rarely have Emacs. If for no other reason I use VI to this day.
Also, when I was six years old, back in the mid 80's, my old man put me in front of a terminal connected to some VAX mini so I could play around while he was working. So there's some nostalgia there too.
I've never even bothered to learn Emacs.
Therefore, my reasons are not reasonable. They are human.